riVeRraT writes:
Um the war did not cost trillions
Thanks Theodoric, you saved me time and effort. Please allow me to repeat your important post while the USA suffers recession, maybe Americans will eventually get a clue:
Economist and Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes, a distinguished scholar and former top U.S. official, concluded in a paper last year that the U.S. is spending $12.5 billion a month just to run the war.
They estimate with all costs added in, including interest on money borrowed to fund it, the total war bill will exceed $3 trillion. Yup, that’s a 3 followed by 12 zeros. It’s like a bailout, except the money is mostly spent on guns.
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SaltWire | Halifax
riVeRraT writes:
Bush did not start the war based on lies, there was mis-information about WMD, which was proven that Suddam was going to start manufacturing again, after the embargo was lifted.
(Sigh, How many times do I have to repeat the following words?). Bush's lies were so unbelievably transparent, it's impossible to believe anyone could have been mislead: Powell knowingly told pre-invasion lies at the the special UN session. He was then openly mocked after the session. OK, once again: Four main lies told BEFORE the invasion. LIE #1. Aluminum centrifuge tubes used for radium enrichment was thoroughly debunked by experts from different departments/agencies BEFORE the invasion; LIE #2. Saddam sought Uranium in Africa; Wilson discovered this forgery/lie BEFORE the invasion; LIE #3. Al-queda - Iraqi link. They were OPPOSED/enemies to each other's philosophy. Never ever a link! None of the 9/11 terrorists were Iraqi; LIE #4. C. Rice told the lie "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud". Sigh. Nuclear weapon manufacture is a big, big, big operation. It isn't done inside a mobile closet. America has spy satelites that can nearly identify car license plates from space. Plus weapon inspectors conducted spontaneous inspections all over Iraq. There was NO possibility that Saddam was HIDING a nuclear weapon production facility. And there was no way Saddam was gonna acquire a nuclear weapon from the black market when the international community was watching. Lastly, read the mission statement for the Project for the New American Century. Bush's cabinet comprised most of these members. Since 1998 (BEFORE 9/11) they strongly pushed for an Iraqi invasion to secure Iraqi's energy resources and to exert America's lone superpower status. Look it up, their mission statement is an open fact. Indeed, most prior members like William Krystal are still proud of their involvement. Lastly, compare the edited 2002 National Intelligence report given to congress to read. It deliberately omits tentative wording and admitted speculation. The report WAS FALSIFIED.
Bush is a filthy lying war criminal who should hang.
riVeRraT writes:
The money spent on the war went where? Back into our economy
Oh really, . . . the billions paid to foreign mercenaries, they spend money in our country?
riVeRraT writes:
. . . was proven that Suddam was going to start manufacturing [WMD] again"
Yes, and who could blame Saddam (dear lord, Bush is so terrible I am nearly defending Saddam!!!)? The USA has a long history of illegally invading countries AND using WMD, and weapons of small destruction, and ILLEGAL weapons of destruction based on false information (eg. Gulf of Tonkin). The lesson learned is the only thing weak countries can do for protection is to seek WMD. Fact: Bush has greatly increased the risk of armageddon/terrorism in the world.
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