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Author Topic:   The Bible's Flat Earth
kuresu
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Message 54 of 473 (499321)
02-18-2009 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by Buzsaw
02-18-2009 10:31 AM


Re: The Literal Interpretation is a Flat Earth
What part of
buz writes:
As has been cited, the Hebrew has a word for flat but not for sphere.
do you not understand? You wrote it yourself. You categorically claim Hebrew has no word for sphere. And then go on to potentially refute yourself (a sphere does look like a circle , but I find it laughable that the jews, or any people really, would not have a word for sphere and thus use circle instead, given how different the shapes are in reality).

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kuresu
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Message 78 of 473 (499631)
02-19-2009 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by Peg
02-19-2009 6:19 AM


Re: The Literal Interpretation is a Flat Earth
Just becuase the english translator chose to use the word 'circle' does not mean the writer intended for us think he mean 'flat'
Have you ever seen a circle that's not flat?
A circle, in case there is any confusion, is:
quote:
a simple shape of Euclidean geometry consisting of those points in a plane which are the same distance from a given point called the center.
Circle - Wikipedia
Or are you suggesting that people 3000 years ago didn't fully understand the difference between a circle and a sphere?
ABE: I realize Euclid's Elements was written ~300 BCE and the biblical texts are older, but Euclid was really the first to systematically compile these geographic axioms. In other words, the knowledge of what a circle and sphere is is certainly older, and the concept of spherical earth dates back to ~600 BCE, though it wasn't until Aristotle that we really get any strong proof for the concept. If you know what a sphere is in 600BCE, you certainly know what a circle is, so I don't really see how you can excuse the language to any great deal if these people were familiar with greek ideas. A circle is a circle is a circle . . .and not a sphere.
Edited by kuresu, : No reason given.

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kuresu
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Message 83 of 473 (499666)
02-19-2009 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Peg
02-19-2009 5:34 PM


Re: The Literal Interpretation is a Flat Earth
that's not a circle though, is it? It may look like one, but it certainly is no circle.
Remember, a circle is a series of points on the same plane that are equidistant from the center point. Being on the same plane means that the only dimensions are length/width, width/height, or height/length (this necessarily means that circles are flat). The earth, of course, exists in length/width/height.
A circle != a sphere. A sphere can be said to be made up of many circles who share the same center point, but with each circle inhabiting a different plane. Adding them all up gives you a sphere. A circle != a sphere.
So let me ask you again: have you ever seen a circle that is not flat? Or are you just trying to make the jews look really stupid by claiming that they don't know the difference between a circle and a sphere?
Edited by kuresu, : clarification

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