Morality without god

The Koran does not present itself as God's word, it was supposedly given by the angel Gabriel, a personification thereof at least, not God, nor does it say anything about the fear of God being the beginning of wisdom.AND there is another difference: If you insult Allah, or more particularly Mohammed, you will find a jihad on your case with the intent of removing your head from your shoulders. The only "Christianity" that would do anything like that is the bogus "Christianity" of Romanism, and they tend to prefer torturing you on the rack or in the iron maiden or sealing you up inside a wall or the like.So much for moral equivalence.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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********************************************************************** So then the apostles were all the vicar of Christ?No, "vicar" is a specific word that means "substitute" which is not the same thing as having similar powers.Here's something to ponder: The Pope's official title in Latin isVICARIVS FILII DEI(It means "In the place of the Son of God," A title of Antichrist if ever there was one.)***Add up the Roman Numerals in the title.*** Huh?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Kofh you are a one-man apostate religion all to yourself. Do you have any followers?

I'm doing exactly what orthodox Christianity has always done, nothing more, nothing less. "The rest of the world" has no right to define it for us, and they are only setting up the Antichrist by doing so. Mormons have a different Christ, a different God, no salvation whatever, and Catholics have all the false doctrine I already listed which also adds up to no salvation since you cannot be saved by works but only by trusting in the TRUE Christ's death on the cross.

Why am I not surprised by this?WRONG!!!!!!!!!You really need to quit reading the whacko wing nut fundie sites and do some research on your own.Vicarius Filii Dei - WikipediaFrom the Donation of Constantine. Freaking hilarious. You are very funny Faith.Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

The title is officially used by the Pope.It couldn't be a title of anyone else!And Wikipedia is notoriously twisted by Romanists.They also treat the Donation of Constantine as valid when it suits them and deny it when it doesn't.So what.Add up the Roman numerals.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Included in "the rest of the world" are other Christians, Faith.I know of numerous Protestant congregations (Presbyterian, Congregationalist, Christian Reformed, and others) who accept that Catholics and Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are Christian, even as they disagree on major articles of faith. They are unified by their faith in Christ. I know this from firsthand knowledge, because I was a part of those congregations when I was Christian.Your exclusionist opinions represent only a tiny minority of Christians.

My "tiny minority" is in fact the majority back through the centuries but who cares. You've bought the apostasy and trust those other "Christians" who aren't Christians -- you can't be a Christian and think there is such a thing as faith in a false Christ such as the Mormons and JW's have -- but obviously you prefer to think they are and couldn't care less what the truth is, so there's nothing more to say to you.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

No it isn't. That is a lie. I have provided evidence showing it is not. How about you provide evidence that this is true. Your best source would be the Catholic church since you asy it is official. You are pitiful. I am sure I can find plenty of things and names that add up to 666. You do realize that there is a good chance the number was actually 616, don't you. Jerome thought the number was 616 and some of the oldest versions of Revelations, dating to 300 CE, say 616.666 means nothing. It is no more relevant that 999 or 128. Those in the know understand that 42 is the only number that matters.

It's a title of the Pope, couldn't be a title of anyone else.And the Roman numerals are something extraordinary. You will not find any other name or title that has the numbers built into it in that same way adding up to 666. Not to mention that the very concept of a vicar of Christ is Antichrist.That's a bunch of revisonist crap about 616 in the Bible. It's always been understood to be 666 except by a few, Romanists in particular, who have a vested interest in misleading people.I've written about all this stuff on my various blogs too, where I do muster more evidence than is worth my time here.

Then you shouldn't have any trouble finding evidence. Maybe some Catholic document stating such a thing? A reference in a reputable book? Wait you have blog postings. How silly of me, of course that is evidence. Shut up. Care to show a "Romanist" pushing this? How can you live with so much hate?If it is revisionism then Jerome was a revisionist and the revisionism started in 300 CE. Do you know what the word revisionist means? You have no evidence for any of the hateful crap you spout.

That is a lie so huge it is liable to collapse under its own mass and become a black hole.The Koran is so much presented as God's word that God is referred to throughout it in the first person, i.e. whenever the Koran says "I" or "me" it's referring to God (not Muhammad or the Angel Gabriel). E.g. Koran 2.47: "O children of Israel! call to mind My favor which I bestowed on you and that I made you excel the nations." I never said it did, but since you mention it, Koran 8:29 says "If you have fear of God, He will give you a criterion [by which to judge between right and wrong]". The equivalence I was pointing out was not of morality, but blind dogmatism. Anyone can bang on about how God magicked their scriptures into existence. It's not particularly impressive when you do so, because so can anyone else.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

Barney is a CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR.C + V + V + L + D + I + V ... 666.What's more, as creationist scholars have discovered, "dinosaur" is just an Evil-utionist word for "dragon". Now what does it say in Revelation 13: "And the whole Earth was amazed and followed after the Beast; they worshiped the Dragon because he gave his authority to the Beast; and they worshiped the Beast, saying, 'Who is like the Beast, and who is able to wage war with him?'"Case closed.

Clever of you, just invent a name and put it in bogus Latinized English so you can count its Roman numerals, and consider it equivalent to an actual Latin title that happens to mean Antichrist and you've proved the Pope is not the Antichrist. Good for you. Those who like to be deceived know how to do a very good job of it. When you have your audience with him so he can thank you for your service to the cause, will you kiss his ring or his satin slipper? Or is it velvet, can't remember.

OK I was wrong that the Koran doesn't speak as if from God, apparently it does and is pretty much nothing but orders and instructions.The Bible does not do that, as a matter of fact, when God speaks He is quoted as God speaking. Otherwise the narrative itself and all the rest of it is understood to be inspired by God according to other parts of scripture.What God told Moses to do is not the same thing as telling the reader to do it as the Koran does but of course all the liars who hate God like to pretend it is.I don't care what's impressive to you, I simply told the truth.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.