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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
No, the case here is much stronger than that for reality of elves, hobbits and goblins. The dragon stories and descriptions are very similar and universal. Most dragon legends are about actual fighting the demonized beasts and it is a well known habit of the devious simian to over-demonise the enemies it massacres or wipes out completely, says the feline.
In any case the moggy would not bet heavily on the consenting quackademics getting anything right. Like Fred Hoyle rightly noted, the overall mechanism of evolution proposed by the neo-darwinian quacks is certainly nonsense of a very high order. There is no reason therefore to expect the dinosaur bit of it to be anything sensible. Edited by Alfred Maddenstein, : No reason given.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
I am neither right nor wrong, Inadequate. I just don't share your creationist bigbangist beliefs.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Some claim the Chinese are finding loads of dragon bones and stuff. Others say Dawkins and his gang collect the bones and now they are all hidden up his arse. They say he hides them there in order not to lose face in a debate with the intelligent designers. I don't know as I did not double-check on either claim.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Coy, for you a good web search might be a basis enough to believe or disbelieve anything. This is a religious approach. The cat is more scientifically inclined than that. His own or any one else's beliefs and assertions about anything do not bother him in the least. They are irrelevant in science. He needs to understand whether something is possible or not. In this case both claims are possible ones. It could be that the Chinese lie about the bones and it would not surprise anybody if the palaeontologists do.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
So, Coy, if you are an expert bone picker you expect the cat to take your opinions as gospel? Listen, mate, the Cheshire does not care for the YEC agenda but he cares even less for you lot's bigbangist creationist one. The legends and depictions show persistent uniformity and correspondence to later palaeontological reconstructions of the beasts. Were the mythologists better skilled bone-pickers than yourself? What kind of beasts St. George and his simian buddies really massacred?
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Inadequate, we had a thread where it was clearly established that you lot are creationists, remember?
ICANT was the only one who repudiated the creationist teachings of Krauss and Hawking you base your beliefs on. Both luminaries hold all atoms could be created by nothing. Do we need to return to that?
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Coy, are you dense or something? If dragons and dinosaurs are synonyms, then dinosaur and dragon bones is the same phenomenon.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
No, that would hold only if we take for granted that all of your chronology is a gospel set in eternal stone. There is no need to take such a fond assumption as a gospel truth. You may have no clue about what happened last week to your neighbour yet you arrogantly assert being privy to the details of the dragon extinction. Keep your gall in check and learn a bit of humility.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
That does not tell much to the feline, Vatican. Fossilised simians are found too. The jury is out on this one. Pliny the Elder claimed to be dinosaurs contemporary. The cat does not see any reason to trust Coy's word on that more. It might well be that it was the simians who wiped the dragons out and not any meteor, Vatican.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
The cat has said the dragon issue is wide open. Do you get it? Are you trying to impress the moggy with the formidable size of your congregation and the choir you sing to, Coy the Expert Choir Boy? Ooh, the Cheshire is all terrified and trembling...
Listen, the cat is ready to hear the views expressed by both creationist sects. No favours though will be granted to neo-darwinians. Their theoretical record is very poor so their credibility is compromised severely. Understand? Nor your second-hand opinions may be given advantage over those reported by Pliny and numerous others.As to Pliny whom you are patronising here this is what he is coming back at you with: "Among these things, one thing seems certain - that nothing certain exists and that there is nothing more laughable and more presumptuous than the learned simian." Especially when his name is Coy the Expert Choir Boy, adds the Cheshire. Edited by Alfred Maddenstein, : No reason given.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Listen, Coy, you are a bone-picker, not me. So stop your religious nonsense and haul instead your expert ass over there. To places where Herodotus, Pliny, Red Indians and others reported meeting and fighting the dinos. Look for more bones to challenge your own thesis. Otherwise, as I said your whole chronology is nothing set in stone. They are finding fresh cells and stuff in the dragon bones assumed to stay a hundred million of years idle.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Coy boy is as sly and evasive as a shy girl. The issue put to you was that some of your chronology must be revised. It is either that protein decays rates are not what they are believed to be or it's that the dragon bones already found are of an unknown age anyway. Your elk and bears red-herrings don't impress the feline. The cat has just read something about them examining dino eggs fresh enough to guess the stages of the embryo. Shouldn't the eggs have crumbled to fine dust in next to 200 hundred million years?
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Coy Boy, face it: the open creationists' case is stronger than what you crypto-creo lot suggest on the issue. Look only at the Chinese calendar, boy. They don't have years of hobbit and leprechaun, do they? Them all are familiar beasts there. Sagan's rationalization sounds weak and contrived. Face it, you lot might be backing the losing horse here.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
The cat heard an explanation that the fire spewing bit could have been based upon reality. Something analogous to bombardier beetle defence. It could have been methane produced in the dragon's belly with a mechanism to divert and ignite the mighty fart.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Face it, Inadequate, the Cheshire cuts your bigbangist bollocks in your native English. And he suspects you can't even mumble in his native Purrish.
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