Is It Bigoted To Have A Supported Opinion?

I will, but before I do let me ask a couple of questions.
1) In regards to the term Christian who gets to categorize them? Can non Christians categorize Christians? Can only one club out of the many denominations categorize other clubs? In short, what is the standard that can or should be used from which to properly categorize another group unlike ones own?My argument is that the Word of God is the standard by which to compare. Others would argue that logic, reason, and human wisdom and/or consensus should be the standard.Critics will again say that I pick and choose which scriptures to use to support my argument. in regards to your accusation as to untruth and "miscategorization", I ask you again...according to whose standard?

Quite simply, Jesus Christ. Humans have no capability to judge each others behaviors apart from Christ. even our vaunted logic, reason, and reality is meaningless without Christ. Belief in Jesus Christ. Only through Gods redemption and redemptive power does global society have any sort of hope to make it. you will see the ever increasing evidence that I am right. I am being as honest as I can. I have no need to try and win arguments simply to validate my ego. I honestly care about each and every one of you. And thus I "preach" to build our rock upon Jesus Christ and not upon human wisdom. Apart from Him we can and will do nothing. You are all welcome to support your own arguments with whatever building material that you choose to use. We have free speech in this coffee house.Now...getting back to a request. So the question and challenge from Mr.Hooah is that the phrases in the picture I posted are essentially untrue, am I right? I need not attempt to defend the accusations on the right...concerning modern day Christians. I see ample evidence that those characterizations are quite true...at least in the church in America. Don't get me wrong. There is nothing wrong with social justice and actions...it has been said in this forum that Christianity is at its best by what you do and not by what you say. Additionally, many of you claim that you also do acts of random kindness and mercy to those less fortunate than you and that you do it with no religious agenda and with no expected heavenly reward. You do it because it is the right thing to do...and for that I applaud you. You are more like the early believers...though you remain unconvinced of the reality of Jesus Christ and I'll not say a word against you. Good Job!Lets examine each statement: Early Believers Willing To Sell Everything They Had For The Gospel--Most of them didn't have much. This belief lost steam once Constantine made Christianity P.C. but it continued through the monastic order for several hundred years. There were a few notable exceptions... Scriptural Support: Acts 4:34,Matthew 13:46. Keep in mind the audience to whom the scripture is being spoken to. In modern context, the idea is more about what is in the human heart. Don't ever let your possessions keep you from helping someone whom is placed in your path or whom your conscience compels you to help.(I am still working on this one...I was and am greedy and selfish by my sinful nature) Beaten, whipped, murdered,deprived,imprisoned for advance of Gospel--The Apostle Paul was of course imprisoned. Jesus Himself took on the shame that human society by nature had (and still has...just watch the culture of no shame that we embrace now) To be honest with you, though...I don't have a lot of evidence personally for this one. I live in a prosperous country and am left alone. It is my choice to advance the Gospel as I understand it and I also have no proof that doing the right thing without fervent belief is in any way superior. So I concede this point to you critics...for now. Taught Sound Doctrine,studied to show thyself approved to God. The early believers were careful to preserve sound doctrine. It is my belief that the many Bibles we have today are the result of such preservation...careful study between them shows very little discrepancy in wording, which is resolved through the communion of the Spirit within the believers of today. The problem is when the church attempts consensus with secular society. Believers Diligent To Learn All Scripture jar always gets on my case asking me whether I've even read the Bible. I am still reading, and am open to other opinions of what the scriptures mean...though I also test the spirits and can tell when someone wishes knowingly or unknowingly to water down a message or to attempt to re-frame it according to cultural consensus. We can discuss this on an individual scripture by scripture basis, though we likely would go on for years. willing to pick up cross I am still not exactly sure of the symbolism of this quote. Honestly, I would be scared to die...but we all die eventually anyway. I suppose I try and do my best on a daily basis. Many days I fall short and many things that I have said in these forums I later regret having said. I focus on my relationship with Jesus on a daily basis.Oftentimes, this relationship is tested by how I relate to all of you. I wont compromise my argument unless internally compelled, but I try and treat each of you with respect as humans and don't seek to insult or "one up" anybody.The rest of the list builds on what I just said...which gets us to the last one..... Being Transformed Into New Creation It is my belief that this action is not mere evolution of human wisdom. It is through a daily communion with Jesus Christ and through a daily love of others. Please forgive me if I still snap at you and give you snarly comments....and I will try my best to be polite without compromising my own integrity to myself and to God.Edited by Phat, : re examination of what I saidEdited by Phat, : No reason given.

I had to look the word up. I try and learn things from you guys when I can. Internet Encyclopedia Of Philosophy-Sophists

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Due in large part to the influence of Plato and Aristotle, the term sophistry has come to signify the deliberate use of fallacious reasoning, intellectual charlatanism and moral unscrupulousness.

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Is this the term you meant? Was I being lazy again in quoting an article that I didn't fully understand and that was not my own words?

Is it entirely possible for God..if God exists, to Himself be bigoted? Allow me to get personal. What if I told you that you were in sin if you didn't love God more than you loved your significant other? Would I be a bigot by telling you this and if so, why? Not at all. What I believe is that the God I worship is the Creator of all seen and unseen and is superior to all human wisdom,faith, and belief. People are all created equal, though some are born handicapped, poor, or blind...they have equal heart and equal worth. We are all equally sinful as well. The question, I suppose is whether we need God, as I understand Him. I think we do. Edited by Phat, :

I say this in the same spirit in which you addressed me:

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After 122 posts, Dronester has demonstrated, as he does elsewhere at EvC, that he is an intelligent and educated man of critical thought. There is no argument, however, that can penetrate his heart. He is utterly convinced that God is a mythical creation of the human mind and his ego would be crushed were he to find out otherwise. My hope for him, Theodoric, Hooah, and Mr.Onifre is that they someday experience the Holy Spirit. I sincerely hope that dronester does not go to his grave believing that God is nothing more than a human creation and, further, I pray that God in His mercy gives dronester yet one more opportunity to allow the flow of the Holy Spirit to guide his life rather than human wisdom. I do appreciate him telling me that I need therapy. I will consider listening to an educated person who understands the mind--even if they are not Christian---and of course will also pray for them when I go visit. Thanks, Dronester. Oh, and one more thing....

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Dronester, get to a first rate church. You have so much more in life that you are blinded to at this time.

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I changed it. I can always edit my posts...they are collectively a work in progress.

My intuition.

For the record, I find what many hetero couples do to also be icky.I also do not associate myself with an "ilk". My opinions are strictly my own, though I may be accused of being an Ilkodocean. Finally, for the record..I oppose legislation to discriminate in any form.I never advocated campaigning against same sex marriage any more than I advocate campaigning against public free speech even if it borders on "hatred" or intolerance to some.What I have said and will continue to say is that the Spirit of God is alive and through communion with Him, less "icky-ness" will manifest through the fleshly nature of humanity.

Not at all. The fact is that you people are simply wrong. God exists and you have an inner nature that hates that fact. I myself am no better than you in my fleshly nature...but I will suggest that in Spirit, you are deluded and wrong. Keep trying to do your best though and don't hate. He loves you as much as He does me.

Introducing my invisible friend: These days people don't even hate Jesus. They simply deny that He exists. First you speak truth...Father God exists...and then you let yourself believe lies. God is not a product of your imagination. I urge you to stop deluding yourself. Even if you close your eyes, reality wont go away. Stop fighting it. Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

Not at all! I have no problem with my opinions and beliefs being criticized. And I honestly don't see myself as any more smug than anyone else. Perhaps I am...if so I apologize.(good scrip reference, by the way)

Good post, Dwise1...I hafta go to work now(457pm Denver time) but will come back and edit this post and form some sort of coherent reply...I am most definitely an A person...so let me meditate and think of a logical response to you rather than a snippy emotional one. I respect the time that you took in making your reply and so believe it my duty to try and respond. Stay tuned...

Christianity should always be Christ centered. Jesus is alive today. This is the message that is important. My basic critique of the argument centers on those who look at Jesus as either fictitious or as a mere human historical character. I maintain that human wisdom-centered arguments will fail to explain the meaning of scripture almost every time. In which case the crux of defending ones position rests entirely on human logic, reason, and reality. Of course I suppose that Theodoric and others have a point when they challenge me to do so....after all, if I believe that Jesus is alive, perhaps He can help me defend my position!

I believe that the Bible is inspired by the Spirit of God. Humans obviously wrote it...it didn't fall out of the sky and land at the feet of King James. As you have pointed out, there is not one book known as the Bible initially...it came about through compilation of letters, scrolls, and human writings which I believe were inspired by the Holy Spirit.Quite obviously these writings also reflected the culture and world view of the individual author(s).