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Author Topic:   Is It Bigoted To Have A Supported Opinion?
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Message 34 of 175 (698133)
05-03-2013 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by PaulK
05-03-2013 10:15 AM


Re: What and Whom Does The Bible Support?
Good post PaulK.
Not only does Phat show his bigotry, but also his hypocrisy.
He focuses on one nearly throw-away line in the bible, never even mentioned by jesus (let alone putting jesus' 'love thy neighbor' on the back burner), yet conveniently disregards ALL the rest of god's pronouncements in Deuteronomy and Leviticus. Very typical christian behavior. Where's his concern about these matters in public:
‘Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed.
‘Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.
"The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD."
Or countless other similarly ridiculous items in Deuteronomy and Leviticus?
I don't think I ever met a christian who wasn't a flaming hypocrite.

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Message 40 of 175 (698143)
05-03-2013 11:17 AM
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05-03-2013 11:10 AM


Re: What and Whom Does The Bible Support?
Good one Taq.
The list goes on and on and on and on and on.
In my opinion, christianity has become the most dishonest and hypocritical faith on the planet.
Jesus must be rolling over in his grave.

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Message 42 of 175 (698150)
05-03-2013 11:29 AM
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05-03-2013 11:27 AM


Jesus must be rolling over in his grave.
I say that to my fundie brother to aggravate him.
Works pretty good.
I think "Jesus must be rolling over in his grave" is a Simpson's quote.
Edited by dronester, : No reason given.

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Message 46 of 175 (698158)
05-03-2013 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by Tangle
05-03-2013 11:36 AM


Tang writes:
I doubt Phat's views would have generally be regarded as bigoted in, say, the 1950s.
Couldn't we extrapolate that rationale to the era of the bronze age? For example . . .
"I doubt the bible's views about genocide, infanticide, slavery, and sexism would have generally been regarded as immoral in, say, the first and second century."
If true, wouldn't that say that god's inspiration for the bible was really half assed?

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Message 53 of 175 (698377)
05-06-2013 10:34 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by Phat
05-06-2013 10:17 AM


Re: Communion
Phat writes:
Slavery, for example, was never Gods idea...God merely was dealing with humans whom had already chosen to adopt and/or institute slavery.
Yeah, afterall, god isn't some kind of supernatural omnipresent, omniscient all-powerful being or something. Afterall, what could someone with so little influence possibly do? His reactionary hands were literally tied to what humans could or could not do. Yup, no doubt about it, god is a pip-squeak panty-waist.

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Message 56 of 175 (698388)
05-06-2013 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Tangle
05-06-2013 12:06 PM


Re: Communion
Tang writes:
This is too weird for me - you're going to have to explain wha you think it means.
Well, maybe it would help if I offered a parallel example to Phat's:
"Did it ever occur to you that Baskin and Robins may have created deserts for some of us but not with the thought of satisfying any mere taste/tactile attraction, nor desire for any oral delight, but, rather, for some deeper emotional bonding?
Just take a look at the following photo. Doesn't it make you think of deep philosophical thoughts?
Or are you just a pervert?

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Message 57 of 175 (698389)
05-06-2013 12:48 PM
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05-06-2013 12:27 PM


Re: Communion
Is that a banana in the dish or is the sundae just trying to connect on a deeper emotional bonding?

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Message 122 of 175 (698861)
05-10-2013 9:55 AM


A three-year-old's mentality . . .
I see no point in continuing this thread.
After 120 posts, Phat has demonstrated he has the mindset EXACTLY equivalent to a three-year-old child who believes in the Easter Bunny, or a religious terrorists who would kill innocent women and children. There is no argument from logic that will penetrate his concrete brain. And there is no plea from morality and ethics that would sway his heart.
IMO, Phat's fragile life would be irreparably crushed if he would even momentarily consider the forum's posts. He has willfully chosen to go to his grave believing he has a PERSONAL relationship with a mythical, invisible being riding around in the clouds. He is not alone. Half(?) the people in america have similar beliefs. Is it any wonder america has so much violence and retardation.
As I mentioned previously, there are COUNTLESS ridiculous pronouncements from god in Deuteronomy and Leviticus he could latch on to. Yet Phat specifically chose the gay-card, PUBLIC intervention in regards to another person's genitals! That would suggest to any psychology-101-student that Phat has inner demons he cannot himself exorcise. At this point, I would also wonder if Phat's upbringing was also toxic.
Phat, get thee to a first-rate therapist, you got a long difficult road in front of you.

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Message 126 of 175 (698876)
05-10-2013 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 125 by Rahvin
05-10-2013 11:02 AM


Re: According To Whose Standard?
Rahvin writes:
All for no real reason other than the fact that you think two men having sex is icky.
Me thinks Phat protests too loudly.

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Message 128 of 175 (698885)
05-10-2013 11:46 AM
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05-10-2013 11:37 AM


Re: According To Whose Standard?
Phat writes:
What if I told you that you were in sin if you didn't love God more than you loved your significant other?
Why not quote the bible now? . . .
quote:
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26)

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Message 131 of 175 (698893)
05-10-2013 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by Phat
05-10-2013 11:49 AM


Re: A three-year-old's mentality . . .
Phat writes:
After 122 posts, Dronester has demonstrated, as he does elsewhere at EvC, that he is an intelligent and educated man of critical thought.
Well, how rude, now you're just being nasty.
When I was in Burma, I visited a glass encased temple that was air-conditioned so that the marble Buddha statue inside would be 'comfortable.' The whole building must have cost a mint. The EXTREMELY poor villagers would come and give offerings (money, fruit, flowers). But I thought, If only they would give EACHOTHER their time, money and efforts, their lot in life would significantly improve. Afterall, they been doing this for centuries, it would seem their god would eventually start giving back if their offerings had ANY merit. Yet they are STILL catastrophically poor. It is like people who continue to pray even though studies have shown their is NO benefit.
So this is my takeaway question when I see people toiling in effort for an invisible, non-existent god: Is there so much love and kindness in this world that we can waste it on imaginary beings?

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Message 134 of 175 (698896)
05-10-2013 12:30 PM
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05-10-2013 12:22 PM


Re: A three-year-old's mentality . . .
The illusion of piety is reward in itself. Perhaps.
When children go without shelter or food, is piety really that rewarding? When a child starves to death, it isn't a quick merciful death. To die from malnutrition is a long drawn out agonizing pitiful death.
So, in comparison, how rewarding would you say is that "piety"?
Can I paraphrase?: Is there so much piety in life that we can waste it on imaginerary characters?

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Message 137 of 175 (698901)
05-10-2013 12:53 PM
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05-10-2013 12:43 PM


Re: A three-year-old's mentality . . .
Just to clarify, I think you mean "We should put our brother's needs above the piety.'
Good!

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