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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
So you are admitting to widespread flooding? My goal has been achieved. Can you disprove it covered the Permian highlands? Up until now I have been regularly told that the flood has been disproven. Can you disprove it now that I've pinpointed a time when there was widepsread flooding? LOL Of course I can refute that the Biblical Flood happened at ANYTIME when humans existed; you have been given that several times. Today only liars claim the Biblical Flood happened.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Actually as one Christian to another Christian, "Yes". I am saying that you continue to lie, mostly to yourself. In fact you have become so used to lying to yourself that you can no longer even recognize it.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I'm very sorry you see it as nasty and will continue to pray for your enlightenment.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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If any of the Biblical Flood Myths were true then there are several things that must be seen.
All animals will have a most recent common ancestor just 4500 years ago. Most transplant operations like skin grafts should be easy with little or no rejection within species. The genetic bottleneck must appear in EVERY species of animal and plant.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped! |
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I think what has been said repeatedly is that the Biblical Flood has been scientifically disproved.
That is a fact.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Once again, you simply misrepresent. I have not been making generalized statements.
If the Ark was real then we MUST see the following: All animals and most plants MUST show a genetic bottleneck at approximately 4500 years ago. If even one mammal, reptile, bird, insect, vampire or zombie does not show that genetic bottleneck the the Biblical Flood simply didn't happen. Humans do not show a genetic bottleneck in the last 4500 years.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
More utter bullshit from you.
If the Bible Flood myths were true even the crocodile would have been restricted to what were on teh ARK. And there is no mention that more than 14 of any given species including insects were on teh ARK. And according to the Bible Flood myths if it wasn't on the ARK it got killed. That was the purpose of the game.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Again, more bullshit.
The purpose of the Biblical Floods was kill everything God created except what was on the ARK. It was as pointless as the Exodus comedy if it didn't kill everything not on the ARK. But as has been pointed out to you, even if your point had any merit it is irrelevant. Humans were on the ARK and do not show a genetic bottleneck 4500 years in the past and all it takes is one example to refute the idea of the Biblical Flood or ARK. If the Biblical Flood myths were true and there had been an ARK, then there must be a genetic bottleneck signature at 4500 years ago in EVERY critter descended from the critters on the ARK. Now that would be a really big red flag, so big that even blind geneticists would see it. The animals we see today are NOT what we would see if the ARK had been real.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Exactly. So why cant you show evidence for the lack thereof? What? There is no human bottleneck that would have been 4500 years ago in humans. But wait, it gets worse. If the ARK myth were true then that genetic bottleneck must appear in both the paternal and maternal genetic lines and at the same place. And it don't. It would also have to show in cattle and pigs and goats and dogs and vampires and zombies and it ain't there. Even a blind geneticist could see that.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It also requires that the most recent common female ancestor must have been only 4500 years ago and come from a very small pool.
Noah must be the Y ancestor and there can be no more than 4 X ancestors just 4500 years ago.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
What it means is that there are three different possible female ancestors other than Noahs wife.
If there was a single most recent common female ancestor it would have to be even more recent than 4500 years ago.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You're correct.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But all that is just irrelevant until you can show that those critters were on the ARK.
You need to show that the rino that would have been on the Ark was a first rino and not the rinos that actually existed only 4500 years ago. Good luck. But there is one other thing you MUST show and that is the genetic bottleneck at 4500 years ago in all existing horses, rinos, marsupials, humans, bears, elephants, giraffes, deer, humans, etc. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But all of you points you try to make are irrelevant and frankly, not really honest.
The topic of the thread is "Which animals would populate the earth if the ark was real?" The answer to that is really simple. Every animal alive today must show that it went through a bottleneck 4500 years ago. If even one species of animal does not show that bottleneck signature then the Ark story is refuted. Humans do not show a bottleneck 4500 years ago. Goats do not show a bottleneck signature at 4500 years ago. Chimpanzees do not show a bottleneck signature at 4500 years ago. That means that the Biblical Flood Stories are false and impossible. It does not matter if you want to pretend that the Flood happened at the PT boundary or the KT boundary or any other time. The Biblical Flood stories are myth. The Ark story is impossible. And that is not just confident, it is fact.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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The evidence is that no scientist, no geneticist, no biologist has found a 4500 year ago bottleneck signature in any genome yet examined.
The important point is that all it takes is ONE single sample from ONE single human to totally refute the Biblical Flood myths. Or ONE goat. Or one Lamb. Or one Gorilla or Chimp. If there had been a bottleneck just 4500 years ago the transplants between humans would not be so failure prone. But they are. The proof that a shooter was wrong about hitting the target is looking at the target. The human genome has been fully examined as have many other species and no 4500 year bottleneck signature is there.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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