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Greatest I am
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Message 33 of 203 (789400)
08-14-2016 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by Parasomnium
08-14-2016 2:33 PM


Re: Universalist Gnostic Christian church
Parasomnium
I have no problem with what admin did as we, I hope, are allowed to bring anything to the board that pertains to the issues at hand.
He was clear and honest as to where the material came from and other sites allow their admins to post and debate.
We often quote from many source and I just see that as another source.
We should allow ourselves to bring wisdom found anywhere as well as what some would not call wise.
Regards
DL
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Message 35 of 203 (789402)
08-14-2016 3:09 PM
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08-14-2016 3:05 PM


Re: Growing pains
Parasomnium
Speaking of the faithful.
It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.
Jonathan Swift
Regards
DL

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Message 44 of 203 (789412)
08-14-2016 3:46 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Parasomnium
08-14-2016 3:14 PM


Re: Growing pains
Parasomnium
I am not sure what it takes.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
Some can use ridicule but I am not good at that and just let reason and common sense guide me.
Regards
DL

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Message 47 of 203 (789415)
08-14-2016 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Faith
08-14-2016 3:17 PM


Re: Growing pains
Faith
Shall I get the biblical quotes for you that has god forcing the Israelites to smash the heads of babies on stones, killing all the non-virgin women and enslaving the virgins, or can you rethink without it?
Regards
DL

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Message 49 of 203 (789417)
08-14-2016 3:58 PM
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08-14-2016 3:51 PM


Re: Growing pains
Faith
Dear woman, please do the math for us.
How many Christians were killed by Rome before Constantine bought the church?
How many people did Christians kill after Constantine sent it out to destroy all other faithful as well as heretics that would not kowtow to Constantine's version of Christianity.
Christians helped usher in 1,000 years where freedom of religion was not allowed as well as their many Inquisitions.
Do the math and let us know just how many more lives Christianity took as compared to the few that Rome took of Christian lives.
Regards
DL
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Message 51 of 203 (789419)
08-14-2016 4:02 PM
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08-14-2016 3:55 PM


Re: Growing pains
Faith
So thousand of years in hell is not enough punishment for your god and he also has to order baby's skulls smashed against stones to punish their parents.
Wow. And you like that prick. Wow.
Regards
DL

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Message 52 of 203 (789420)
08-14-2016 4:04 PM
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08-14-2016 4:01 PM


Re: Growing pains
Faith
"I'm talking about the Institution, the papacy, the power structure, all the work of the devil."
Yet you adore a baby murdering god whose morals are no better than a devil.
Have you no shame woman?
Regards
DL

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Message 55 of 203 (789423)
08-14-2016 4:07 PM
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08-14-2016 4:05 PM


Re: Growing pains
Maybe so for some but that does not explain you adoring a baby murdering prick.
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DL

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Message 56 of 203 (789424)
08-14-2016 4:08 PM
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08-14-2016 4:06 PM


Re: Growing pains
Faith
Faith means not wanting to know what is true. Friedrich Nietzsche
Get thee behind me you satanic woman.
Regards
DL

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Message 58 of 203 (789427)
08-14-2016 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by Faith
08-14-2016 4:19 PM


Re: Growing pains
So let's see if we can find your god by his morals as compared to Satan's.
Which one would ask you to accept having an innocent person suffer for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them?
Would god ask that of you or Satan?
Regards
DL
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Message 89 of 203 (789540)
08-16-2016 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Faith
08-14-2016 5:02 PM


Re: Growing pains
Faith
"That is such an evil question I'm not going to address it."
As I said, faith is not wanting to face the truth.
You can run but you cannot hide from what your own god is.
A vile and immoral demiurge.
Regards
DL

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Message 91 of 203 (789543)
08-16-2016 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Phat
08-15-2016 10:14 AM


Re: Universalist Gnostic Christian church
Phat
You asked more than once as to what I would change in terms of what people believe when I gave you the answer in the link I gave you.
Perhaps you were too busy worrying about my formatting.
Let me give it again.
What is God? - Big Think
Regards
DL
P.S. Peek just gives me the message I posted.
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Message 95 of 203 (789547)
08-16-2016 1:07 PM
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08-16-2016 12:12 PM


Re: testable versus untestable.
Phat
"I was changed forever when I publicly confessed that Jesus is Lord..."
Having a Lord or master indicates that you think of yourself as a serf or slave.
Why would you slave yourself to a genocidal god who always seems to kill when he could just as easily cure those he thinks ill?
Regards
DL

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Message 97 of 203 (789549)
08-16-2016 1:12 PM
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08-16-2016 12:51 PM


Re: Judging The Judge
Phat
"the only evidence you have is what has been written by others. You cannot claim to know God so how can you judge Gods supposed actions without hearing from the defendant Himself?"
Further the only knowledge you have of god is what has been written by others. You cannot claim to know God so how can you judge Gods supposed actions without hearing from the defendant Himself?
Regards
DL

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Message 101 of 203 (789553)
08-16-2016 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by Phat
08-16-2016 1:05 PM


Re: Universalist Gnostic Christian church
Phat
"Still...you have shown us a link but have not articulated why you believe that God is so darn mean. I do not see this in my relationship with Him. Perhaps you want us all to stop believing that God is apart from us in nature and that we all can be gods."
I think that Yahweh is mean because he is a genocidal son murdering god who always seems to kill instead of curing, --- even as he is said to be able to do either. Good does not always kill, evil does.
To your last.
I do not want you to believe that god is apart from you. I want you to see the god within you as natural.
Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.
If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.
Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.
But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
If you cannot see god in all, then you cannot see god at all. God is nature, so to speak, and man is the highest form of nature.
Regards
DL

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