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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I.e. you have no interest in truth.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Gosh, couldn't it be that I have no interest in being bashed incessantly by Leftists?
Nope, couldn't be. You could easily avoid any bashing by going away or demonstrating the slightest interest in truth. You've done neither. How many words have you written avoiding stating your position on killing legal immigrant kids? I've proven over and over again that left and right wing agree that what I posted is what went on. It's not right versus left. It's humanity against inhumanity. You don't have the guts to admit you choose inhumanity.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Trump administration ‘rolling back women’s rights by 50 years’ by changing definitions of domestic violence and sexual assault
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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So far you've rejected an official birth certificate for no discernible reason and invented a story about what could possibly have happened in a moment of silence (with no evidence that it did happen l.
Not convincing. Got anything else? And how 'bout killin' dem kids?
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
You believe that about the conversation all right. With no evidence that it happened.
The birth certificate presented here is the official long form Obama released. If you think you saw some other certificate that one was not official or you are misremembering. You rejected the official birth certificate for no discernible reason. Got anything for which you have evidence? Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The postman couldn't remember his name and his account has no corroboration.
None of his records have been sealed in any legal sense. Records that are typically confidential remain so until somebody comes up with a subpoena. Releasing school records without written permission of the subject is illegal. No other President's school records have been released except somebody illegally leaked W's grades. BTW Trump threatened to sue any school that released his records. Many of the records right-wingers have claimed are sealed are in fact publicly available. I haven't done any psychoanalysis. I'm talking about facts and evidence. Of course you'll dismiss all this with a wave of your hand. Dogma trumps reality as always.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
They're not available without a subpoena, as is standard legal practice.
The postman's story has no corroboration.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Still no evidence.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Still no evidence. Plenty of unsupported hysterical accusations.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
I'm not attacking you. I'm attacking your unsupported claims.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
You haven't supplied any reasoning, and your biased interpretation of the few facts you supplied are barely compatible with your interpretations and far from probative.
Speaking of inconvenient questions, how do you feel about killing sick legal immigrant kids? Your refusal to answer speaks volumes.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Someone told his grandmother to change her tune? All you've supplied is a story you made up based on no evidence for that particular story. Your fanatic belief in that story is not evidence.
The postman's story is not confirmed and Obama was not named. That makes it extremely suspect. His documents are as available as anyone's and are not locked down. You have provided no facts to justify dismissing the one and only birth certificate. Your belief that you saw something else years ago is irrelevant. Your "commie!" slurs are irrelevant to his citizenship.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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The birth certificate is not circumstantial. It proves he is a natural born citizen.
Your story about somebody telling grandma to change her tune is pure fantasy. Commies are not relevant. No records are "locked down". The postman's story is circumstantial evidence that's contradicted by the birth certificate. You have one weird definition of "a lot".
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Grandmother in Kenya says quite clearly that she was present at Obama's birth
Yes. There's no evidence for any reason she did that. It's equally possible that someone (inaudibly) said "they mean your grandson, not your son". Or any other scenario. At best extremely weak circumstantial evidence.
Silence on the phone follows Silence is followed by "correction" emphatically and repeatedly stating that he was born in America I remember looking at some kind of birth certificate about ten years ago that had some different type faces on it and something odd about the name. The one presented here recently was a different document.
The one presented here is the one and only official long form birth certificate. Unless you can produce this alleged other document your memory means nothing relative to the question of citizenship. I note you have made no attempt to discredit the contents of the one presented here.
Postman says
Only the most tenuous of links to Obama. No other record him being there at that time. I can easily conceive of more than one African exchange student intending to be President. Whomever he talked to should have been aware of his eligibility, which you are arguing made his hope impossible. Very very weak evidence.
He was told by Mrs. Ayers they had a foreign student living with them He then met the student, he had no doubt it was the student, a black student from Africa He didn't remember his name But he remembered his saying he was going to be the US President which stuck in his mind Obama was raised in a Communist family
All irrelevant to his citizenship. Mostly bullshit, of course.He was close to the known Leftist terrorist activist Ayers and his wife He went to a "church" where the "pastor" preached on how evil America is rather than on the saving work of Jesus Christ He was always putting down America to foreign leaders and bowing to Arab/Muslim leaders So, two very weak pieces of evidence. That sure is a lot. ABE Almost forgot the non-circumstantial birth certificate, ironclad evidence against your claim.
I'm some legal reason to subpoena them? Somebody should do that if possible, to prove that he was or wasn't a foreign student. However, knowing how Communism works I don't think we could be sure those weren't forgeries too.
Yes, you'd need a subpoena. Hardly worth the effort, though.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 197 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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never saw any Kenyan birth certificate. I remember a Hawaiian birth certificate that was different from the one shown in this thread.
Irreleavnt unless you can produce the document. THe document postedd here is the one and only official birth certificate. It proves you are wrong.
The grandmother's first statement on the phone and the Postman's memory are the best evidence.
They are indeed the best evidence you've got. They are also extremely weak circumstantial evidence. The birth certificate rules. I note you have no comment on the fact you've announced you wouldn't believe Obama's school records if they disproved your claim. Or on the fact you threw in several irrrelevant and scurrilous lies as "evidence".
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