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Faith 
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Message 331 of 762 (863666)
09-28-2019 2:38 PM
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09-28-2019 2:34 PM


Re: Climate Trolls Attack - The Reality
No it's like saying I love the healthy true sciences and hate the cancers that adhere to them.

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Message 332 of 762 (863667)
09-28-2019 2:39 PM
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09-28-2019 2:36 PM


Re: Climate Trolls Attack - The Reality
Oh good, I'm glad you do think about the future as a climate chageist certainly ought to.

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ringo
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Message 333 of 762 (863669)
09-28-2019 2:42 PM
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09-28-2019 2:38 PM


Re: Climate Trolls Attack - The Reality
Faith writes:
No it's like saying I love the healthy true sciences and hate the cancers that adhere to them.
You deny biology, geology, chemistry, physics.... What are the "healthy true sciences"?

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Faith 
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Message 334 of 762 (863671)
09-28-2019 2:47 PM
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09-28-2019 2:42 PM


Re: Climate Trolls Attack - The Reality
Biology, Geology, Chemistry and Physics are the healthy true sciences, where they address actual facts instead of the fantasies of evolution and man-caused global warming.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Message 335 of 762 (863672)
09-28-2019 2:52 PM
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09-28-2019 2:47 PM


Re: Climate Trolls Attack - The Reality
Faith writes:
Biology, Geology, Chemistry and Physics are the healthy true sciences.
And you deny them. Biology points inexorably at evolution and geology points inexorably at an old earth. If they were wrong, as you claim, then chemistry and physics would also necessarily be wrong. You can't throw out the fundamental conclusions and still pretend to have any respect for the method.

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Faith 
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Message 336 of 762 (863673)
09-28-2019 2:56 PM
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09-28-2019 2:52 PM


Re: Climate Trolls Attack - The Reality
This is SO tiresome.
Biology doesn't need evolution.
Genetics doesn't need evolution.
Geology doesn't need the Old Earth.
Paleontology doesn't need evolution.
Physics does't need evolution
Chemistry doesn't need evolution

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ringo
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Message 337 of 762 (863674)
09-28-2019 3:00 PM
Reply to: Message 336 by Faith
09-28-2019 2:56 PM


Re: Climate Trolls Attack - The Reality
Faith writes:
Biology doesn't need evolution.
Genetics doesn't need evolution.
Geology doesn't need the Old Earth.
Paleontology doesn't need evolution.
Physics does't need evolution
Chemistry doesn't need evolution
Of course science doesn't "need" its conclusions but the conclusions are still inescapable. Evolution and an old earth are conclusions that can not be avoided without throwing away every other conclusion.
Edited by ringo, : No reason given.

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jar
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Message 338 of 762 (863675)
09-28-2019 3:03 PM
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09-28-2019 2:56 PM


and the true cancer is revealed.
In this thread you have shown once again why the greatest threat to humankind and all living things on Earth is "Biblical" Christianity and the CC0I.

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Faith 
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Message 339 of 762 (863676)
09-28-2019 3:04 PM
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09-28-2019 3:00 PM


Re: Climate Trolls Attack - The Reality
Absolutely nothing of value would be lost if we completely gave up on evolution and the Old Earth and man-caused global warming. The sciences woujld go on doing what they do well without all that, improving medicine, improving life in general wherever they are rightly used.

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Faith 
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Message 340 of 762 (863677)
09-28-2019 3:04 PM
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09-28-2019 3:03 PM


Re: and the true cancer is revealed.
Right. We're the vermin. Got the concentration camps ready for us?

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ringo
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Message 341 of 762 (863679)
09-28-2019 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 339 by Faith
09-28-2019 3:04 PM


Re: Climate Trolls Attack - The Reality
Faith writes:
Absolutely nothing of value would be lost if we completely gave up on evolution and the Old Earth and man-caused global warming.
Obviously false. If we "give up" the understanding of man-caused global warming, we can't stop man from causing it. That's like trying to stop a car without understanding what brakes are for.
Faith writes:
The sciences woujld go on doing what they do well without all that, improving medicine, improving life in general wherever they are rightly used.
What they do well is discovering things like evolution, the old age of the earth, the Big Bang, man-caused global warming, etc. If we did forget about those things like you wish we would, science would just discover them again. That's what science does.

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jar
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Message 342 of 762 (863680)
09-28-2019 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 340 by Faith
09-28-2019 3:04 PM


Re: and the true cancer is revealed.
No need for concentration camps, all we need to do is simply ignore the CCoI and treat them as unruly infants. But we do need to react to Big Business and elect representatives that will pass and enforce laws protecting living things from rampant capitalism.
AbE:
Faith, just as we can test the true age of things we can tell whether or not a particular pollutant was naturally made or man made. We can often even determine where a particular pollutant was generated.
Science works Faith;, whether you like the fact that it shows the Earth is billions of years old and mankind evolves and was no special creation or that Global Warming is primarily man made. Those are all facts Faith, they are reality and your beliefs are simply fantasies.
Edited by jar, : see AbE

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Faith 
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Message 343 of 762 (863687)
09-28-2019 6:02 PM


Do 41 failed scientific predictions of climate doom suggest a credibility problem?
You said science works. Well of course real science works. As for prehistoric science there's no way to ever test it. But as for global warming the science is always making predictions that go bust. I just heard some read on the radio and looked up the source which is somebody Nolte quoted on Breitbart.
41 failed climate doomsday preditions since the sixties.
The record is even worse than that for failed Christian prophecies of the End.
Here's the list:
LIST OF DOOMSDAY PREDICTIONS THE CLIMATE ALARMIST GOT WRONG
Here is the source for numbers 1-27. As you will see, the individual sources are not crackpots, but scientific studies and media reports on expert predictions. The sources for numbers 28-41 are linked individually.
1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
1970: Ice Age By 2000
1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
1972: New Ice Age By 2070
1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
1974: Another Ice Age?
1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life
1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes
1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend
1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015
2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 90s
1980: Peak Oil In 2000
1996: Peak Oil in 2020
2002: Peak Oil in 2010
2006: Super Hurricanes!
2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015
1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
1970s: Killer Bees!
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Message 344 of 762 (863696)
09-28-2019 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 343 by Faith
09-28-2019 6:02 PM


Re: Do 41 failed scientific predictions of climate doom suggest a credibility problem?
Breitbart? Really?
You can't get more Alt-right and conspiracy fake news than that.
Your list means nothing.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Faith 
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Message 345 of 762 (863697)
09-28-2019 10:27 PM
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09-28-2019 8:41 PM


Re: Do 41 failed scientific predictions of climate doom suggest a credibility problem?
Facts are facts are they not? Breitbart merely reported them. Are you saying there were no such predictions by scientific sources?
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