The New Neo-Nazi's

WILLOWTREE writes:

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Yet, most importantly, the truth of what God said about the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil is apparent: There is NO POWER in the knowledge of good and evil to CHOOSE the good over the evil APART from God.

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Whoever said there was? You don't need a Tree of Knowledge to understand that man has a dual nature. It doesn't require "power" to choose good, it requires will.

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Every American and European university professor who provides the justification and rationale and excuses for the murdercide of defenseless Israeli civilians are adopting the mantle of the Nazi's, using their ultra educational status/credentials as a tool to sin/murder Jews. They are the New Neo-Nazi's.

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(As an aside, you're mixing Old English and Latin with your word 'murdercide'. There is no such word; I suppose you mean either simply 'murder' or 'genocide'. A distinction here is important: which is it?)I doubt there are many such professors, but I'm sure there are quite a number who hold Israelis substantially responsible for their own terrorist troubles. You and I might disagree with those professors, but that doesn't mean they are trying to justify murder.

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When is the morality of the highly educated going to reach the Jews and condemn their murders by Palestinian suicide cowards ?

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I agree with your sentiment to a point, but I don't think it has anything to do with being highly educated nor do I think that all of the blame for the current terrorist crisis in Israel can be layed on the Palestinians. There are too many villians and victims on both sides of that conflict.The Palestinian / Israeli problem is too complicated to be a side-issue in any thread. If it is to be discussed we should give the subject its own topic.

When I posted earlier in this thread, I did so after having read appeals to stop piling on the creos for fear of running them off. I tried to word my response as mildly as possible, but having read back over this today I am almost embarrassed that I didn't make my point more forcefully. Gilgamesh's post is more like mine would have been had I not been trying to go easy on WT.This topic's first post seems to be an attack on knowledge. I wonder what WT would have schools do in the stead of imparting knowledge. Should we simply send our kids to day-long prayer sessions and bible studies? Would that make the world a better place? More to the point, would that have prevented the world wars?As I said before, I think the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is much too complicated to be dealt with as a side issue. The bold portion of WT's original post in this thread should either be struck entirely or moved to a new topic.

I think it was actually Austria that would be regarded as the highest educated at that time, at least in terms of literacy and education level. It's been a long time since I've seen this documented but I believe it is correct. Therefore you have a point, such that it is. The difference in Austria and Germany (notwithstanding the fact that Germany had a larger underclass) at that time was negligible. It'd almost be like the difference in North and South Dakota.However, you're essential argument seems to be that a high level of education does not correspond to a high level of morality. I wouldn't argue with that at all, but I don't see how it matters. A higher level of knowledge can definitely improve society and the quality of life, but I've never known anyone who would say that it should raise societal mores.In other words, you're right in that education level has nothing to do with morality. Why is this point so important to you?

I'm not angry at you either, I just think you're overstating the case regarding these professors. I don't think there are as many radical Israel-hating professors as you suggest there are. Sure, there are some, but unless you can provide us with some research about this all we have to go on is your perception.Plus, I don't think we can really discuss this objectively. By that I mean that your complaint is entwined with the Palestinian / Israeli conflict itself. I repeat my earlier assertion that the place for that discussion is in a thread dedicated to it.

Stop using the word 'murdercide', WT. I don't make a habit of correcting English errors, but this one bothers me. Perhaps it's because, as I said earlier, it mixes Old English with Latin.The OE word was 'murther' which comes down to us as 'murder'. The suffix 'cide' is Latin and is only appropriate in Latin constructions like 'suicide', 'genocide' or 'homocide'. You do a good job of expressing yourself most of the time, but errors like this are a distraction.

For what it's worth, I think WT's basic premise regarding the professors is correct, but I think he carries the point too far. I've seen writings from professors at some of the more liberal universities that are disgusting in the way they blame Israel for everything that goes wrong in the Middle East and make the Palestinian suicide (or homicide, if you prefer) bombers sound like freedom fighters.Some might argue that they are freedom fighters. Trouble is, they're not fighting their oppressors, they're fighting innocent civilians. At rare times, Israel itself has resorted to the same immoral tactics so please don't think I'm ignoring that fact. Until both sides in this conflict learn to value all human life (rather than just their own race) that region is doomed.As a gay man, I have to give the edge in this battle to Israel. If a man is found to be gay in Israel, his rights are basically protected. If a man is found to be gay among the Palestinians, his only hope is to seek asylum in Israel. If he remains with the Palestinians and is found out, he will be killed!I've been waiting for a separate topic about this never-ending conflict, one not encumbered by discussions of whether education and knowledge makes one more or less likely to commit immoral acts, but apparently one is not going to be forthcoming.

WILLOWTREE requests:

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As for that topic Berberry - start one !

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I'll give the idea some thought. I don't have time to do it at the moment. Keep an eye open, though, if I can organize my thoughts on the matter I just might do this. I suppose it might make for a lively 'Coffee House' discussion.Anyone else who might take a notion to start this topic themselves is welcome to do so.