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This is a good point, which people are missing.Also, I thought those others who tried to show Hitler as Christian
--> was a pretty pathetic thing. A lot of Christians still think the Jews are God's people - including me. Hitler's political babble can in no way show a christian doctrine.Willowtree is I think, trying to show that we cannot ever get back to the garden without God. Read Hosea to see examples of the God forsaken.
Even people who are not mad can murder - infact, very sane people DO murder. People here are against WT, and they are missing the good points s/he makes because of this. I disagree about pointing the finger at people, but I think there are some very valid points WT makes. Did Dahmer know the difference between right and wrong? - Did Bundy? Did Hitler? Do psychopaths? - Surely we can agree that the knowledge of good and evil is not a solver of problems. Loving your neighbour and enemy --> Now that would solve some problems.If s/he is saying that morality and choosing "good" comes from a relationship with God - then I agree. This is the meat of the topic to me. I will refrain from pointing the finger at professors though, as I am too ignorant of that seperate matter.However, I also know of people who are moral and atheist - many infact, yet they lack the doctrine and recipe for a good world, because they disregard God's teachings on how to get right with God, and not be forsaken. The fact is - God's way is the only way, and it will always be the moral winner. Faith in itself is rigteoussness, and was acceptable to God with Abraham. You cannot have the moral victory over believers, because you will always put self-righteoussness before the righteoussness of God. Singular opinions versus christian doctrine doesn't win. Love fulfills the law of God. Faith in Christ is the only way for our sinful bodies to be reconciled. How can we shake the dirt from the root of iniquity? We can only make our house without blemish and perfect, with the house that is without blemish and perfect. A house built on singular opinion will fall - and it has in the past. A good example of people failing in their own righteoussness - is the nazis, and the evil thereof they sought after. If those Hitlers were to actually read the bible, they would see how far from God their regime was.The lone path leads to destruction, the past has proven this. Hatred and prejudice are also singular opinion=self-righteouss.

Hi Zephyr,I remember our last exchange was probably last year Good to see you back here! You see, "christian" and "violent animosity" = "I never knew you" - Jesus Christ. I hope you can understand that crucial observation. This is because of things like "If you even get angry with your brother you are in danger of the commandment".You see, to me --> Anyone can claim christianity - even millions, and I am sure many nazis also claimed that the holocaust was a good thing. Yet, I am not one to take these sayings as Gospel. I do however, take the Gospel as Gospel. This may seem to you like "No true Scotsman". Though I am persuaded that the significance of Christ's words will out-way such things. Fair enough. I have no argument about that. It's not that I am emotional, I am just obligated to "fight the good fight of faith", and defend. And so that's what I do. The argument about the nazis being all of the above is not really my ball park. All I know is they failed to be christian in every possible way, if they killed people.And it is necessary to be a christian aswell as doing the talk --> No paper tigers qualify![This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 04-27-2004]

You are very "articulate" (Is that the word?).Ofcourse, I can see the difference. Many infact most here, are studying evolution and they seek not to kill Jews. I don't agree with "that" part of WT's post and so I chose to only answer to the christian parts of your post - being the nitpicker I am.Whether intelligence has any baring on "murder" I don't know. Many serial killers are touted as being intelligent - very intelligent. And many psychopath killers are touted as very cunning. (Mainly on the discovery channel ). So, I guess education/intelligence does have no effect on morals, but I am still a bit unsure.I think we could agree to agree, that those two statements you made about the nazis are probably accurate.
Regards, Mike.

AArgh dee cutchy wutchy icle Zephyr babwa I Know - I see your point. A psychopath is probably born psycho I think, but I won't open that can of worms here.... My explanation is "If the fruit is good, then it is very good, and if it is bad - then indeed it is very bad". You won't find that scripture because the wording is almost certainly not accurate, yet the meaning is the same