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Rrhain
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Message 36 of 100 (265624)
12-05-2005 12:36 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by ReverendDG
12-04-2005 11:59 PM


Black-and-white thinking
The other issue, ReverndDG, is that randman seems to be suffering from the error that because something didn't follow the model absolutely perfectly, that must mean that the entire field is a piece of crap and should be abandoned immediately in favor of the "god did it" response.
Notice that randman is fixated on the idea that hurricanes absolutely MUST weaken over colder water as if there were no other factors involved in the formation of a hurricane and its strength. Notice that he insists that it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a hurricane form south of the equator during certain times of the year. All because of a couple of variables aren't quite what he thinks the model is (and note that he doesn't actually discuss what he thinks the model is but relies upon someone else to do all the work for him), then it NECESSARILY is the case that there couldn't possibly be a hurricane.
It's as if upon watching two mathematicians argue over whether or not the six millionth decimal of pi is a 2 or not, that must mean that pi is really an integer.

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

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Rrhain
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Posts: 6351
From: San Diego, CA, USA
Joined: 05-03-2003


Message 45 of 100 (265636)
12-05-2005 12:59 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by randman
12-05-2005 12:39 AM


Re: Black-and-white thinking
randman responds to me:
quote:
I have merely pointed out what mainstream meteorologists have stated
Question: What, EXACTLY, did they say?
Did they say, "we need to go back to the drawing board to explain these 2 guys"? If they didn't, what is your justification for extending their comments that far?
Be specific.
Question: What other factors contribute to the strength of a hurricane? Are there any others? Are hurricanes driven solely by the temperature of the water over which they sit? In an absolute sense? That is, is it even possible to form a hurricane over 70 degree water?
Hint: Think of pressure and temperature differential. Try to remember your thermodynamics regarding the efficiency of an engine and what factors are involved in that efficiency rating with respect to the high temperature and low temperature reservoir.
Be specific.
quote:
You have an adversarial perspective, not one concerned with facts here.
Since you have provided none but merely asserted that these hurricanes are so bizarre, so far beyond what anyone would have predicted, it is quite difficult to analyze these missing facts. It would be helpful if you were to provide some. It is your argument, therefore it is your burden of proof.
Which meteorologists said this? Where? What were the exact words? What models were they using? Can you provide any analysis at all of what is going on beyond your mere say so?

Rrhain

Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

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