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lfen
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Message 184 of 298 (156090)
11-05-2004 12:25 AM
Reply to: Message 180 by Hangdawg13
11-04-2004 7:39 PM


Re: Hoping you are right about the sheep
If I am underestimating them, then perhaps we should fight even harder?
Hangdawg,
Since it's doubtful we could fight any stupider (I am referring to Irag)I guess we have to fight harder. I'm depressed that your obvious intelligence is in the service of dogmatic religious conservatism but there is nothing I can do about that.
There is also nothing I can do about the course of empire. This happened to Rome, and Great Britian, and now the US is sliding on the down side of empire. It's a huge addiction that eventually grows far too expensive but there is no stopping it.
You don't appear to care that Bush lied and used calculated lies to manipulate congress and public opinion. You don't seem to care that the US is bearing a huge expense in fighting this war of indeterminable outcome in Iraq. Bush wouldn't wait for a UN or NATO action to spread the expense and to soften the diplomatic impact.
Politics, dipolomacy, war are not Hollywood movies. John Waynge was not a real war hero nor did he experience combat, he was an actor. The real world is far more complex than movies and war rhetoric portray. But I fear you are too young to understand that. On the other hand once the dynamics of addiction to empire are underway the momentum will carry us through to the end. And that is not that bad. Italy and England are slowly recovering.
Irag had little to nothing to do with the terrorist attacks. In the end the expense of a militarily sustained empire will grow from the current bleeding to massive hemorrhaging. But again the massive debt that Bush is casually subjecting us to won't affect him and his wealthy friends. Look at the poor countries of Latin and South America. The wealthy retain priviledges amidst massive poverty.
Bush and his neoconservative cohorts are manipulating your patriotism and naivete. Kerry while not a stellar choice was preferable on the issues. But then nothing can stop the inevitable course of empire. I fortunately am old enough that I won't be around when the bill comes due. You just might be. You are intelligent. Please give some real study to the situation and not just to the things the authorities are telling you to believe.
lfen

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