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Topic: Should those of religious faith be allowed to run this country?
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2332 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Message 36 of 308 (214385)
06-04-2005 11:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 32 by jar
06-04-2005 11:07 PM
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Re: No right response.
Not to mention that many of the Barbary pirates weren't Muslims, but rather Dutch originally. De Veenboer Jan Janszoon van Haarlem Simon the Dancer
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" select * from USERS where CLUE > 0 http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2332 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Message 83 of 308 (214809)
06-06-2005 6:49 PM
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Reply to: Message 82 by Faith
06-06-2005 6:40 PM
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Actually, and maybe Andya will correct me if I'm wrong, infidel is the general translation of kafir which is Arabic for denier. Kafir does NOT include Christians or Jews. The term for them is Ahl-al-Kitab, People of the book. Before you say it, no...militant Islamics wouldn't necessarily make this distinction. You, however, did not make any distinction between militant Islamics and the general populace that follows the religion of Islam.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" select * from USERS where CLUE > 0 http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2332 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Message 90 of 308 (214829)
06-06-2005 7:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 88 by gnojek
06-06-2005 7:24 PM
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gnojek, Did you see my msg #83 concerning the meaning of infidel/kafir as opposed to ahl al Kitb/people of the book?
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" select * from USERS where CLUE > 0 http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2332 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Message 93 of 308 (214837)
06-06-2005 7:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 92 by gnojek
06-06-2005 7:39 PM
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People of the book are those who have recieved or are in possession of divine scripture, the Quran, the Torah, and the New Testament. AbE...bah, hit submit too early. Muslims believe that the Torah and the New Testament are corrupt versions of God's revelation, fixed by the Quran. This message has been edited by Asgara, 06-06-2005 06:43 PM
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" select * from USERS where CLUE > 0 http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2332 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Message 98 of 308 (214844)
06-06-2005 7:58 PM
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Reply to: Message 94 by Faith
06-06-2005 7:46 PM
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I was referring to your msg 82. The post I was replying to.
The difference is that they don't follow a religion that preaches killing infidels such as yourself. Seeing as how jar is a Christian and holds no enmity toward Islam, the majority of Muslims would NOT preach to kill him as an infidel. I fully admit that you have used the term moderate muslim several times. You do make it sound like you are equating those you call moderate with a minority of Muslims.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" select * from USERS where CLUE > 0 http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2332 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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There was nothing wrong with the People's Ice Tea Front (PITF) until those damn sweet tea lovers took over.
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2332 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Brother, don't hate on a friend. Ice Tea and Lemonade have enjoyed a LONG and refreshing friendship, aye even many happy marriages. Let us unite against the COMMON enemy, the heresy of SWEET TEA. This message has been edited by Asgara, 06-06-2005 08:20 PM
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Asgara
Member (Idle past 2332 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: 05-10-2003
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Re: Academic bill of rights my A**
put into the hands of administrators and legal courts, who do not have the expertise to make this sort of determination. Exactly! The same way medical decisions are taken away from doctors and patients and put into the hands of legislators and HMO execs.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" select * from USERS where CLUE > 0 http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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