Relativity is wrong...

Even if we accept your model with the Earth at the centre point of sphere surrounded by a rotating spherical shell with various other massive bodies also inside this shell.........There is still no way to balance all of the forces involved in such a way as to maintain equilibrium such that the Earth remains at the centre of this sphere.Even on it's own terms your model fails.Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.

I cannot help but notice that some members are not giving this theory the credit and respect that it deserves. Smoothie has taken the time and trouble to explain his reasoning and his geocentric model of the universe to us. The least we can do is take him seriously.Anyway everyone knows that it is invisible pink duct tape that holds the Earth in position at the centre of the universe.Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.

Dude. Don't be a dumbass. The Earth is taped to the immaterial blue turtle that swims against the aether tides (which are in turn caused by the spinning spherical shell coriolis forces) to maintain the Earth in absolute static equilibrium. At the centre of the universe.Obviously.

And?So the universe is now on it's third incarnation whereby the immaterial blue turtle (that has existed in one form or another in all previous incarnations of the universe) carries the "chosen" planet upon it's back such that we, the chosen people, can bask in the glory of inhabiting the centre of the universe.Duct tape and aether currents allowing of course.Edited by Straggler, : Spelling - I have been in the pub again.

My argument cannot be refuted!! Imbecile!!! How to Make a Duct Tape Turtle (with Pictures) - wikiHowRead and weep sucker!! Read and weep.Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.

Blasphemer!!

Shit! You are right. My whole argument, my whole philosophy, my whole life's work is a pile of kak infested Y fronts. What will I do next? How can I go on? I don't think I can. This is too much. Your superior arguments have reduced me to nothing. There is no turtle. There is no point.I hope you are happy you "ablueturtleists". Yes all of YOU. I hope you are proud. You have destroyed my turtle. You have destroyed me.I bid you farewell. I would say "see you in the next life" but now, thanks to you, I know there is no "next life" to be had. You know not what you have done. I forgive you.Goodbye.

How is equilibrium maintained such that the Earth stays static at the centre of the universe? Why do the various and changing forces acting on the Earth not cause it to move from this position?Does the answer involve turtles and/or duct tape?

How? For equilibrium to be maintaned all forces must cancel each other out. How is the rotation of the spherical shell acting in such a way as to constantly modify the force it exerts on the Earth such that the Earth never expereinces a resultant force due to the other continually moving bodies in the universe?Why does the foirce that the shell exerts only hold the Earth at the centre? Why do not all bodies in the universe get pushed to the centre?Do you have an equation for the force that the shell rotation exerts on masses in the universe? Or are you just making things up to suit your argument?

Do you recognise the difference between momentum and force?Does a resultant force have an effect on the motion of a body. Or not? This is effectively asking whether or not you accept Newtons second law or not. So do you? Can you give me an equation that shows the force exerted on a body inside a rotating shell? Or not?I don't need to refer you to Principia Mathematica to state that F=ma and F=GMm/R^2 are the two equations by which most simple celestial mechanics can be determined. Do you have an equivalent for your rotating shell force?

Can you explain how these equations show that the force due to a rotating shell always acts equally and oppositely to any other force that is acting on a body (i.e. the Earth) at the centre of said sphere?I missed that particualr equation.Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.

Oh.Do you even have an equation for the force exerted by the rotating spherical shell on bodies within that rotating shell? With my undergraduate maths maybe I can work the rest out for you?AbE - If I can't I am sure that there are those here who can and will.Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.

Ok. I have done tensor calculus to the point of studying General Relativity if that helps? If it is beyond me we do have some prefessional mathematicians and physicists here at EvC who would no doubt help both me and you?So can you at least tell us the factors/dimensions that are involved in the force that is applied to bodies within a rotating spherical shell?Can you point me towards the equations that you feel support your "Earth at centre of universe surrounded by rotating shell" position?Or are you just making this shit up as you go along.....?Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.

So you don't know what factors are relevant to the force exerted on a body inside a rotating shell by a rotating shell? The speed of rotation of the shell? The mass of the body inside? For example. Have you read the paper you cite? I am not asking you to. I am asking for an equation that describes the force on a body inside a rotating shell. Why is that so hard? Have you even read the paper you are citing? Or have you decided that the Earth must be at the centre of the universe and then grasped around for anything that you think can support that position?One equation: F=.........?Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.

The paper does not even mention a shell. How can it take account of any forces exerted by a shell without mentioning it? What am I missing here?Newtonian gravity combined with Newtons second law would not have a static Earth at the centre of the universe. Even if it started out in the centre. It would move as the forces of other orbitting bodies acted upon it.Unless it is held in place by an ethereal blue turtle swimming against the aether with the Earth taped to it's back.