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Author Topic:   Has the bias made this forum essentially irrelevant?
tesla
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Message 100 of 355 (617568)
05-29-2011 7:26 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by Taz
05-29-2011 3:46 PM


I am currently working on a non-corrosive material that has a higher yield strength than conventional reinforcing steel. We'll be doing some more testing next week.
Ah, i saw where bullet proof clothing was being made with an energy absorbing property. The man who owned the shop demonstrated its effectiveness by being shot. Pretty neat stuff (and very light).
But anyways; on topic:
I don't think the bias has made this forum irrelevant. I do believe that discussion should traverse beyond conventional ideas of ID and other creation beliefs.
It’s more beneficial to promote education of the misinformed instead of dog piling them. And more beneficial for a scientist to admit the limits of their knowledge than to arrogantly assume todays science proves anything when it comes to whether or not God exists in any form. Much less: attack a specific belief without any real evidence.
I don’t know any human being that does not hold some belief they can’t prove, they simply choose to believe what they believe. Many people also trust their wives. Can they prove their wives are trustworthy? Well nowthat wouldn’t be trust if you could.

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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tesla
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Message 342 of 355 (618503)
06-03-2011 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 340 by jar
06-03-2011 1:46 PM


Re: Where in the Coffee House
I believe that many productive arguments have been held at these forums, or else, why then discuss anything here?
Many long time posters have a tendency to argue positions and views.
To try to clarify a productive debate vs. a non-productive one let me propose two debates:
In the first debate both individuals only agree there is an issue worth discussing and debating. Both individuals are open minded in their opinions.
After much debate the two have scrutinized the data of their topic and arrive to two different conclusions, while both agreeing both are potentially false until they discover more evidence. or perhaps let’s say they both come to the conclusion the topic is purely subjective when interpreting. (Such as Plato would suggest when attempting to discover definitions of words like 'friendship’ in which he simply leads the reader to discover their own understanding of why or how they choose friends)
In the second debate, which would be a better model for debates here: you have two or more individuals with a decided position who argue the evidence that supports their conclusion and the first one that walks away could be considered the least evidenced (even if this is not the case)
I believe if many here could learn to debate more along the first method; that it would better convince those like-mindedthat is: in the pursuits of investigating their own knowledge and beliefs on topics: to stay and learn.
In a nutshell : Debate methodology could be the cause of waning activity, as well as: lack of scientific support for a creator that could give people who believe in God leverage for debate.
Edited by tesla, : typing errors

keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

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