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Bolder-dash Member (Idle past 3658 days) Posts: 983 From: China Joined: |
Ah welcome back A! Where have you been?
Your side desperately needed you. Don't leave them alone like that for so long. They can't cope very well without you. There is really only one you if I am being honest.
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2323 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
Bolder-dash writes:
Again, since this is your own thread, and you clearly don't care enough about it to post on topic, it is hardly your place to whine that others don't care about it either. And I'm not moderating either, I'm trying to get the discussion to move forward,by pointing out, as others have, the threads where your comments would be (mildly) on topic, but clearly, you are more interested in whining like a child then in an actual discussion. One wonders why...
How many times has been Percy told you to leave the moderating to the moderators? You are off topic. Don't worry, Percy will be biased enough in deciding who is off topic without your help. It is anyone who disagrees with him!
Of course it isn't. Which I'm sure will be pointed out pretty quickly when a moderator gets here and decides to lock this topic because basically (almost) nobody, including the topics starter, is having an on topic discussion in it. The irony of course being that this once again disproves your claim about moderator bias. Edited by Huntard, : added a bit
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Why are you here? What are you actually doing here right now? What is your point?
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Bolder-dash writes: I don't believe you. As I said, I want a complete list first. I don't want you guys to go and trying changing the dimensions of the tennis court before the match even begins-not that I don't trust you and all. Enjoy the inevitable ban.
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4046 Joined: Member Rating: 7.4
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Panda writes: Bolder-dash writes: I don't believe you. As I said, I want a complete list first. I don't want you guys to go and trying changing the dimensions of the tennis court before the match even begins-not that I don't trust you and all. Enjoy the inevitable ban. If he IS banned, the average IQ of the forum will jump a solid 30 points. That's pretty substantial, considering my opinion of some of our other members. On the downside, we'd no longer have our very own board feces-flinging troglodyte.
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fearandloathing Member (Idle past 4173 days) Posts: 990 From: Burlington, NC, USA Joined: |
On the downside, we'd no longer have our very own board feces-flinging troglodyte. That is why we need a exile type forum, the entertainment value is worth it, think of it like a zoo, everyone likes to watch the chimps throw poo. The more I think about it the more it makes sense, why give him what he wants? I think he wants to see how far he can push, get suspended and be a martyr. "I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson Ad astra per aspera Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.
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bluegenes Member (Idle past 2505 days) Posts: 3119 From: U.K. Joined:
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Bolder-dash writes: Another title could be, 'What happens when all of the debaters are gone?" , but I guess we are already getting the answer to that question. There are lots of places on the internet where evolution and creation are discussed and debated. There's almost always a dearth of creationists regardless of the ownership and moderation of the boards. I just looked into
Evolution Fairytale Forum, which has been up for at least six years, so it should be well established, and which has an obvious creationist bias. Stats: 15 guests and 0 members active in the last half-hour. You'll almost surely find that more creationists posts have been made here today (and are made most days) than over there. So, your view that moderation bias is the problem doesn't seem to be supported by that. Why can't preacher Fred Williams pull creationists to his very creo-sympathetic site? Numerically, Percy's doing as well or better! And, looking at this thread, you seem to be expressing great concern at the state of this particular site. Why all the emotion? Why is it so important to you? {ABE} Evolution Fairy Tale now has 20 guests and 1 member online. I'm glad this post's link helped. Edited by bluegenes, : See ABE
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Having normal and admin accounts makes it much easier for everyone, including ourselves, to keep track of where we're moderating and where we're participating. Otherwise it seems to all run together. It was never intended as an aid to maintaining objectivity, something I think all moderators struggle with.
--Percy
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Taq Member Posts: 10084 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
and taq can call them all evil, as soon as I start asking for evidence, in response to a question about ID evidence!, So you admit that you shift the burden of proof when asked for evidence that supports ID?
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Itinerant Lurker Member (Idle past 2684 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
I just looked into Evolution Fairytale Forum, which has been up for at least six years, so it should be well established, and which has an obvious creationist bias. Stats: 15 guests and 0 members active in the last half-hour. And that's for a site that is notorious for banning non-YEC posters. Lurker
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Please present your 4 favorite pieces of evidence for the ToE in order of preference or in order of the weight of conviction that you feel it carries Now why in god's name would I want to do something as stupid as this? Anyone who has studied the area in the least knows that it is an intricate amalgom of thousands of different facts from more than a half dozen scientific disciplines none more or less important than any of the others. Synergy. The whole is the greater. You want to fight Evolution you have to fight all of it, not just pieces-parts.
(Thankfully, Percy has personally guaranteed to support my request for evidence). I'm surprised Percy let himself get ensnared by your stupid little attempt at a trap. Just for jollies, though, I will throw out this one fact in Evolution's favor that I find one of the most compelling. It POs creationists. That is worth a whole lot.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Ah welcome back A! Where have you been? Your side desperately needed you. Don't leave them alone like that for so long. They can't cope very well without you. They seem to be doing a fine job of mocking your mendacity, hypocrisy, and inadequacy without me. But then, they have a large target. But this is by-the-by. Do you have something to say about moderation? Y'know, the topic? Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
AZPaul3 writes: (Thankfully, Percy has personally guaranteed to support my request for evidence). I'm surprised Percy let himself get ensnared by your stupid little attempt at a trap. Bolder-dash is making this up. I can't bring moderator pressure to bear on anyone in this thread because I'm a participant. ButI will absolutely support anyone, including Bolder-dash, in seeking evidence from anyone making unsupported assertions, but that doesn't include going off-topic. If I were moderating this thread Bolder-dash's insistent off-topic excursions and behavior would have drawn some attention. --Percy
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8563 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Bolder-dash is making this up. It took me a while, Percy, but I managed to overcome the burning desire to say ... something ... er ... not too flattering toward my fellow guest in your home. Let me help you in your effort to get this thread back on topic.
quote: BD's entire OP is irrelevant. He is a god awful creationist with delusions of intellect so our expectations of him were quite low to begin with ... and he has lived up to those expectations. Does this help?
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Bolder-dash Member (Idle past 3658 days) Posts: 983 From: China Joined: |
Percy, plese note, in message 166 from azpaul, responding to slevesque about what the evidence means
The evidence does lead. The interpretations of evidence and thus the conclusions reached MUST reflect the reality presented by the evidence. Science follows the evidence, interprets the results and draws conclusions. Here azpaul is making the argument that the evidence points to the ToE as the only real conclusion. Now this is a statement he made ON THIS THREAD! Now I should think that any reasonable person would agree that one counter argument to this statement is to ask for that person to show that evidence they are referring to, and allow it to be judged as to whether or not this evidence does in fact point to an inevitable conclusion of the ToE. And thus I ask for that evidence. And so you see my request is entirely on topic. It is a response to a comment, made here that I am asking him to back up with evidence. So when you say:
But I will absolutely support anyone, including Bolder-dash, in seeking evidence from anyone making unsupported assertions, but that doesn't include going off-topic So when you say you will support this, where has that support been? All of your little groupies can back you up, and keep screaming that it is me who is out of line, but the fact is one of the posters makes an unsubstantiated claim-that the evidence clearly points one direction- I challenge that statement, and you see what happen? On your site? Based on your words? And you continue to allow your members to say it is my problem. Does this help you at all to see why this is such a joke? Do you think I care that 20 evolutionist use this as a (failed) opportunity to attempt to throw around their garbage insults. I don't care (aside from lacking much to back up their bravado scientifically, your side also has a tremendous paucity for making even nominally clever insults). But be clear, any neutral party who reads this whole exchange can see that when I asked legitimately for evidence for unsubstantiated claims-you all ran and hide under Percy's skirt. And Percy, you welcomed them in there with open arms and open legs.
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