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Author Topic:   Homosexuality and Natural Selection.
sidelined
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Message 167 of 243 (414331)
08-03-2007 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by CDarwin
09-05-2006 9:36 PM


CDarwin
This is a problem I have because if I say it is not I am called Anti -Gay and homophobic which I am not.
Well perhaps the better explanation for the prevalence of homosexuality is that the area of the brain that governs homosexuality expression is not selected against since there is no survival threat present by it being there. In the same way that heterosexuality has expressions that have nothing to do with reproduction yet are not selected against either.
Of Course , you could tell them to piss off and quit being so heterophobic and learn to deal with you as you are despite their discriminating biases. It is a waste of time to try to expect people to understand you through a filter they have in place but ,more to the point, it is a waste of your time to try to change their perception.

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sidelined
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Message 240 of 243 (415647)
08-11-2007 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 168 by Hyroglyphx
08-03-2007 8:59 PM


Re: Arguments from science, not emotion
nemesis_juggernaut
But isn't there? Since the entire theory of evolution is based on sexual selection, what purpose would it serve nature to select a specie that does not have the desire to reproduce?
Two things here. First evolution has no purpose it merely has outcomes. Second the species does not lack the desire to reproduce. The sexual expression of a human being is not aligned with the requirement of reproduction for species survival. The sexual desire is a manifestation of the circuitry of the brain as a consequence of the manner in which that wiring proceeds. If ,in homosexuals, that wiring is slightly different from the larger majority of heterosexuals all this means is that the wiring can proceed in another direction since there is nothing to prevent it.
That begs the question: If nature, having no mind or will, does not intend for homosexuality, rather, that it simply happened, couldn't we reasonably view homosexuals to be inferior in evolutionary terms?
Inferior is a rather loaded word don't you think? Disadvantaged in evolution is not even correct either since there is no reason at all why homosexuals cannot raise children. Evolution does not care if you reproduce or not as an individual. All that is required for success in evolution is a continuation of the species. Hell, evolution does not care for species or even families thanks to natural selection.

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