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jar
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Message 76 of 175 (698624)
05-08-2013 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by Phat
05-08-2013 1:29 PM


Re: Communion
phat writes:
Dr.Adequate writes:
Well, if this attraction includes a deep and profound desire to fellate him, then I'd have to suppose that that was part of God's purpose too.
And I would disagree. I would call it idolatry.
If it was (and of course it could not be) is there anything wrong with idolatry and should you have anything to say about whether or not someone else practiced idolatry?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 77 of 175 (698646)
05-08-2013 3:02 PM
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05-08-2013 1:29 PM


Re: Communion
Phat writes:
I would call it idolatry.
I suppose a tattoo on a penis could constitute a graven image.

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Message 78 of 175 (698647)
05-08-2013 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Phat
05-08-2013 11:56 AM


Re: We Are All Role Models
Why do you continue to associate homosexuality with things/activities that are unhealthy? Why don't you come out and say: I think fags are yucky and I don't like it" so we can say "ok, so then don't be gay and don't get gay married?".
Homosexuality is not unhealthy so it is nothing like eating a diet of sweets. It is nothing like doing drugs (not that there is anything wrong with drugs), being promiscuous (nothing wrong with that either) or being a rock star. Some people are attracted to the same sex. Get over it. 76 messages in and you've not supported your bigotry one iota. Now, I could see if you could back up your claim that being gay is dangerous, but you haven't. You just don't like fags and imo, your viewpoint is disgusting.
I used to think you were one of the good ones. Now I realize you are as narrow minded and ignorant as the caricatureI paint of all religious idiots. Go protest the NBA with Westboro and Fred Phelps. You'd fit right in. I already made a couple signs for you: "Phat hates fags" and "Phat's god hates fags".

"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins

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Message 79 of 175 (698651)
05-08-2013 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by New Cat's Eye
05-03-2013 10:36 AM


Re: We Are All Role Models
I don't see anything wrong with wanting to keep your race and culture strong.
I understand wanting to preserve your culture, but what 'race' are people from India?
In previous discussions we've talked about how racial divisions are artificial, but the race of people from India is surely one of the more artificial of the artificial divisions.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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jar
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Message 80 of 175 (698656)
05-08-2013 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by NoNukes
05-08-2013 3:41 PM


Re: We Are All Role Models
How about the race of Americans. For that matter, what is American culture?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Rahvin
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Message 81 of 175 (698660)
05-08-2013 4:57 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by Phat
05-08-2013 11:33 AM


Re: We Are All Role Models
...you have so much garbage in this post it's difficult to see where to start.
A good parent just wants their child to be happy. A good parent would be happy for his/her child if the child found a partner who makes the child happy and fulfilled, regardless of the race, religion, hair color, or gender of that partner.
"partying like a rock star, doing bongs, and having group sex" never even enters the picture here.
You have some twisted and ineffective ideas about how to be a role model, Phat. All you'll do is teach a child to be ashamed of his/her feelings, and to worry about daddy's disapproval. You'll damage the parent-child relationship, possibly irreparably, as well as the child's own sense of self-esteem and chances of a happy life outcome, all over worrying over which set of genitalia might be present in your potential child-in-law.
It's utterly ridiculous.

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it. - Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." - Barash, David 1995.

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Rahvin
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Message 82 of 175 (698693)
05-08-2013 9:40 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by Phat
05-08-2013 1:29 PM


Re: Communion
And I would disagree. I would call it idolatry.
While I have heard fellatio described as "cock worship," I really think you're just taking the piss.
I mean seriously. Idolatry? A blow job?

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it. - Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." - Barash, David 1995.

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Phat
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Message 83 of 175 (698699)
05-08-2013 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by jar
05-08-2013 12:07 PM


Christianity is what one wants it to be??
jar writes:
Date Jesus?
Now that's really strange.
"We prefer you stuck to necrophilia until you marry a nice girl."
Does this mean that your particular chapter of club christian doesn't believe that Jesus is currently alive? That would explain a lot....
And the word is celibacy, not necrophilia
Jesus wouldn't let you have sex with Him anyway
Edited by Phat, : fixed bad quote link
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

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Phat
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Message 84 of 175 (698701)
05-08-2013 11:42 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Rahvin
05-08-2013 9:40 PM


Re: Communion
I mean seriously. Idolatry? A blow job?
Idol: 3. a person or thing devotedly or excessively admired.
- someone who is adored blindly and excessively....matinee idol
heartthrob - an object of infatuation
Tu Er Shen (兔兒神 or 兔神) (The Leveret Spirit) is a Chinese deity who manages the love and sex between homosexual men. His name literally means "rabbit deity".
It is a folk tale from 17th century Fujian. In the story, a soldier is in love with a provincial official, and spies on him to see him naked. The official has the soldier tortured and killed, but he returns from the dead in the form of a young hare, or leveret, in the dream of a village elder. The leveret demands that local men build a temple to him, where they can burn incense in the interest of "affairs of men".
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

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Message 85 of 175 (698705)
05-09-2013 12:23 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by jar
05-08-2013 4:26 PM


Re: We Are All Role Models
How about the race of Americans. For that matter, what is American culture?
Now that you mention it, perhaps the idea of preserving your culture is pretty silly as well. If you are one of the last few survivors speaking some language, then I can see not wanting your language to disappear from earth, but is that really something that's at risk when an American marries someone from India? Can't the 1 billion other Indians do that or hundred's of millions of Americans that aren't your kids?

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 86 of 175 (698706)
05-09-2013 12:27 AM
Reply to: Message 84 by Phat
05-08-2013 11:42 PM


Re: Communion
Lowering the pile
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.
Edited by NoNukes, : ah phat....

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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AZPaul3
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Message 87 of 175 (698709)
05-09-2013 1:14 AM
Reply to: Message 75 by Phat
05-08-2013 1:29 PM


Re: Communion
Dr.Adequate writes:
Well, if this attraction includes a deep and profound desire to fellate him, then I'd have to suppose that that was part of God's purpose too.
Phat:
And I would disagree. I would call it idolatry.
Then so must be cunnilingus within a hetero relationship, yes?
69 is an affront towards YHVH?

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Phat
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Message 88 of 175 (698733)
05-09-2013 6:45 AM
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05-09-2013 1:14 AM


Re: Communion
Then so must be cunnilingus within a hetero relationship, yes?
Outside of marriage, yes.

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AZPaul3
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Message 89 of 175 (698734)
05-09-2013 7:27 AM
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05-09-2013 6:45 AM


Re: Communion
Outside of marriage, yes.
So your god wouldn't mind two gays engaging in mutual oral stimulation within marriage. So your god wouldn't object to two gays entering into a loving supportive relationship and your church will no longer deny any two adults the spiritual right to marry.
You and your god seem to have come a long way since yesterday.
Or is there still some other basis for objection?

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jar
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Message 90 of 175 (698741)
05-09-2013 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by Phat
05-08-2013 11:33 PM


Re: Christianity is what one wants it to be??
Phat writes:
Does this mean that your particular chapter of club christian doesn't believe that Jesus is currently alive? That would explain a lot....
And the word is celibacy, not necrophilia
Jesus wouldn't let you have sex with Him anyway
Alive applies to living things like pond scum and trees and monkeys. Once dead they are no longer alive. I can't see anyway to apply the term "alive" to supernatural stuff like ghosts or zombies or gods.
And celibacy is not synonymous with dating. In fact the term dating implies something quite different and alien to celibacy. And the term for dating things that have dies really is necrophilia.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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