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Author Topic:   Morality without God is impossible
Phat
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Message 404 of 472 (912877)
10-05-2023 7:23 AM
Reply to: Message 402 by Tangle
10-05-2023 3:19 AM


Re: Beyond Comprehension
Tangle writes:
I know how much you believe because I believe exactly the same...
Are we talking past tense or present tense? My point is that one cannot simply unknow someone.
The more that I get to "know" you, the harder it would be to simply forget about your character as if you turned into a former forum member and a current myth. Hopefully, the AI of the future won't f*ck with my brain any worse than I can do to myself. I will use ringo as another example. (I sure miss him!) ringo was a wonderfully honest and bright forum member! AS I reread some of his arguments that challenged mine, I feel as if I can almost guess how he would respond to any argument I might make. It is my fervent hope and prayer that AI couldn't produce a better ringo than the one we all got to know and love. And it would be impossible to forget ringo or to dismiss him as a myth, even though it appears as if he is gone fom our forum....perhaps forever.
Does that make any sense? Knowing Jesus involves more than the words written about Him.

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Phat
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Message 406 of 472 (912879)
10-05-2023 7:34 AM
Reply to: Message 405 by PaulK
10-05-2023 7:25 AM


Re: The evolution of morality
OK, PK, I have a question for you. Have you ever believed that a character in any book which you have ever read becomes so well studied and "known" (or understood) by you that you could almost read their mind? Granted, Who has known the mind of God? Yet we have the mind of Christ, according to the Apostle Paul. Was Paul fooling himself? Or can we question whether the words which I loosely quote were even attributable to Saul/Paul?
This one is as hard to falsify as it is to verify. And once a skeptic has raised the question of authorship to a level beyond a reasonable doubt, it becomes hard to actually know any character in the Bible. The book becomes a ragtag collection of random and unknown authors. Satan has done his job well. Comprende? Perhaps to a skeptic, doubt is a badge of honor. Certainly not so for a believer.

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Phat
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Message 415 of 472 (912980)
10-07-2023 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 411 by Percy
10-05-2023 11:15 AM


Re: The evolution of morality
Percy:
Attempting to falsify is part of how you verify.
This jumped out at me but im still deciding whether or not I agree. Belief is not simply resolved through critical thinking, after all. I suppose as long as you keep your experiment in your mind and not let it contaminate your heart you will be ok.
In the past you have been concerned about me and why I can be so cold-hearted.
I'm still trying to figure that out myself, but perhaps I can blame YouTube political videos featuring the weird logic of conservatives such as Ted Cruz. Morality without YouTube just might be possible!

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