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Author Topic:   For percy: setting the record straight on Charlie Rose interview
ReverendDG
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Message 135 of 231 (287468)
02-16-2006 8:44 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by randman
02-16-2006 3:08 PM


Re: substantiation, percy?
No the fact is you are claiming that this is way science works and is the theory, when infact this is one mans beliefs about it,you are exaggerating it and making a mountian out of a mole-hill,
so what if the guy does rule out a god or a personal god, does his science show there isn't one?
as jar said :whats the problem?
the guy is a scientist who is well known, but he does not speak for everyone, there are scientists who believe in god and they feel its compatible with science
this sounds like you are trying to impose your views on the guy and claiming he speeks for everyone..i get the impression of "Aha! this conferms my beliefs about how science and god do not mix, and this guy proves it!"
sorry i don't take one guys view point as final authority on the subject like you want
This message has been edited by ReverendDG, 02-16-2006 08:47 PM

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ReverendDG
Member (Idle past 4141 days)
Posts: 1119
From: Topeka,kansas
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Message 140 of 231 (287509)
02-17-2006 2:41 AM
Reply to: Message 136 by Faith
02-16-2006 10:32 PM


Re: It's not a personal belief, it's an objective claim
I think you're missing the point. I'm not sure what Randman has been arguing, but from my own reading of the transcript it seems clear to me that Watson and Wilson are not speaking personally but logically, basing their view on their understanding of what Darwin showed. YOu can argue with their logic if you like, but it isn't just a matter of them giving a personal opinion. They are saying that Darwin actually showed that there is no need for a Designer. Later they qualify this to eliminate a personal God who "interferes" in the biological processes, which may leave it open for a less personal God in some capacity or other.
no, you don't seem to get what i mean, i mean from thier view it is a logic impossiblity,its still a view point its not carved in stone and my point is they do not speak for all evolution scientists, they think there is no designer, but its only two people
my point is this is dithering over someones views to make it look like this is how everyone thinks in this field
I think there are arguments against this, but just as stated, what they are saying doesn't allow that anyone else could rationally believe in a creator God.
yes, so what?, this has never been a problem for anyone. i think this topic is degenerating into circles

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