For percy: setting the record straight on Charlie Rose interview

Seems to me the 'it' refers to the questions of
whether evolution occurred with interference from God. He is saying there that 15% believe that science got it right when(if) it states there is no evidence of any input by god in evolution.I don't thnk that implies that science shows that there is no God, but rather, there is no evidence to show that there is a God I disagree. He may well state that "there is no God" but from what I can read of it, at no point does he say anything about science PROVING that there is no God. Merely that there is no Proof to scientifically investigate or test.Edit:
If there is no evidence of something occuring. It is a reasonable assertion to state to all intents and purposes it does not exist.This message has been edited by Creavolution, 02-15-2006 04:00 PM

that looks to me very much like he begins talking directly to and about them:
"Both of you as scientists... "and then continues in the same vein asking if they can reconcile a divine creator with their scientific beliefs..
"...that there`s no way you can reconcile a divine creator...."

No.they are saying that THEY cannot reconcile these differences.
That has no implication as to whether anyone else can or cannot.For instance I think that there are those on this forum who believe in biblical creation, while at the same time accepting evolution (of a form) to be true.THEY CAN reconcile their creationist belief with their Scientific understanding of Evolution.I (for instance) CANNOT reconcile these two things.I do not speak for everybody.

That is exactly what they are saying... it is possible for someone else to BELIEVE thais, however that does not make it true.I don't believe in the literallity of the bible.. does this mean it is impossible for you to believe in it?
no.

Unfortunately you are impressing upon scientist the sort of closed minded projectionist behaviour that we see in preachers.i.e. "I believe this to be true, therefore I am right..., there for this must be right, no argument, you are wrong."whereas I think scientists do not have this absoluteness about their opinions or theories. anyscientist who would take this track would soon learn that it is incorrect, as I think someone here already mentioned, science is constantly evolving. I think any good scientist generally thinks (of course... i paraphrase)"I believe this to be correct, all the evidence tells me this is correct, I have tested this evidence and all signs show that it is correct, more evidence may come to light which may change my stance but given the evidence available. i feel this is right.... what do you think?"(I apologise if I have misrepresented scientists in this forum)

I don't think there's any need for insultsYou are interpreting what they said differently than i am, that is all.funny how humans can interpret things so differently isn't it?
SHOULD make you think. but somehow this passes you by.

Faith, you really are something...first you say: then in almost the next breath you continue: I think those quotes sum up your "argument" quite well,you see arguing as simply putting your hands over your ears and shouting your beliefs as loudly as possible... never listening to anything which may contradict you, not even entertaining the possiblity for a moment. this is something you have consistently shown even in my short time at this forum.this is certainly not my understanding of the word argument. I certainly feel that closing your mind to anything but what you already believe does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to enhance your ability to think. In fact it has the complete opposite effect. what I am doing is keeping an open mind, I am very aware that I am not an expert on everything, and that I rely on experts for much of the 'truths' that I recognise. I also recognise that these truths may not be as absolute as I my first think.A fact is some thing that has been proven or accepted beyond reasonable doubt. There is nothing to say that a fact could not be overturned by new evidence to the contrary.I may well accept many things as true every day.... gravity for instance, and i rely on that. But the nature of gravity, it's cause, how it exactly works... are those theories ABSOLUTE truths?

I'm constantly stumped as to your presence here faith.you have no interest in argument, just juvenile statement of your opinion, followed by personal attacks.a textbook christian.

....well there you go.edit:
actually... is anyone from admin around? is this the level of discussion you promote in evc?
faith has consistently made personnal attacks on me in this thread. is this allowed or condoned?This message has been edited by Creavolution, 02-15-2006 06:44 PM

blamed WHAT on you exactly? accused you of WHAT exactly? WHAT idiotic accusations?It's medication time Faith....medication time...

I simply pointed out your debate technique... it's there in the quotes for all to see...