The whole issue is that the specific pink elephants we are talking about are part of the whole reality that is our reality . Then we can look at the issue of things that have no physical form and how the work in our reality .
Oh ok, like thoughts?
the doctor treating the person for the hallucination .. his work is real ...his work is there because of the elepants , the doctors reality is shaped , partly by the elephants , and he the passes on the affect to the rest of the whole of reality .
Hm, I think the doctor's reality is shaped by the person claiming to experience pink elephants, not by the elephants as such.
no , i am saying reality is everything , including experience , everything we experience IS within , and a part of , reality ..
Ok, I can deal with that. However, what we experience is not something that can be experienced by others. The perception of something is a reality for the perciever, but it is not transferable. Aren't the implications that there is a reality for every perciever? Surely that's the point about perception in the first place, that its just an imperfect reflection of reality?