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bluegenes
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Message 234 of 301 (467133)
05-19-2008 6:13 PM 		Reply to: Message 233 by Straggler
05-19-2008 2:43 PM

Mmmm.....the pure insanity....
Straggler writes:
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Yes.
But I keep being drawn in by the pure insanity of it all.
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I'm off topic here, but may be relevant. See if this article that I happened to be reading the other day helps you to understand what's going on.
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Language Disorder
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....sometime border on the side of idiotic genius.....?
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Or is it just me? (That would be worrying......)
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No need for you to worry.
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05-21-2008 10:42 AM 		Reply to: Message 241 by IamJoseph
05-20-2008 9:40 AM

Re: Mmmm.....the pure insanity....
This post (241) is a reply to this post (234) which includes a link to this paper
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Post 234: [bluegenes]
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I'm off topic here, but may be relevant. See if this article that I happened to be reading the other day helps you to understand what's going on. [link to paper/see above]
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Languages are un-vindicated prior to 6000 years. But getting back to the topic at hand, and to move on, the issue has widespread impact, namely that of a finite universe. There are only two possible explanations for the emergence of a finite universe.
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Then, hilariously illustrating a point made in the medical paper:
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1. It occured using different materials/forces not contained in this universe whatsoever - else it violates a finite universe.
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2. Ex Nehilo. This however is not science, but a premise unique to Genesis.
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I recommend the paper again, here. It's useful to anyone attempting to understand IaJ. Your reaction to it is unlikely to be "Languages are un-vindicated prior to 6000 years....."
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What do you diagnose?
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05-22-2008 4:34 AM 		Reply to: Message 271 by IamJoseph
05-21-2008 7:33 PM

IaJ writes:
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bluegenes writes:
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I recommend the paper again, here. It's useful to anyone attempting to understand IaJ. Your reaction to it is unlikely to be "Languages are un-vindicated prior to 6000 years....."
What do you diagnose?
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I'm not one who twists reality via twisted science or history. Its very simple to KO me: just give one single 'name' pre-6000. You got a problem with this - why so?
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The paper is not about the history of language. Your original reply, "Languages are un-vidicated prior to 6000 years", is a typical example of one thing mentioned in the paper.
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Again
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The point I'm making is that your obvious problems with language are remarkably like the language disorders of schizophrenics as described in this paper.
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Don't you agree?
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05-22-2008 5:44 AM 		Reply to: Message 283 by IamJoseph
05-22-2008 5:15 AM

Re: WHAT'S IN A NAME - PLENTY!
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Of coz it stands to reason. Asking for proof, even the simplest one concerning a name, which does not need writings and can be a result of recall - automatically proves I am dysfunctional. QED too.
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Nothing that you ask for automatically proves that you are dysfunctional. What indicates a language disorder is purely and simply your use of language, the type of mistakes that you make, and your apparent inability to identify them.
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It has nothing directly to do with your opinions.
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05-23-2008 1:21 AM 		Reply to: Message 286 by IamJoseph
05-22-2008 4:51 PM

Re: WHAT'S IN A NAME - PLENTY!
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bluegenes writes:
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What indicates a language disorder is purely and simply your use of language, the type of mistakes that you make, and your apparent inability to identify them.
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On the ther hand, not specifying your point of my mistake can also be a form if dysfunction.
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Look at what you've written there.
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I linked to the article three times. It tells you what to look for, but one of its main points is that those suffering from language disorders will have trouble identifying the mistakes they make.
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I can point out plenty of faults in your posts, but why don't you identify them yourself? And if you can't, the implications are.......what?
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05-23-2008 3:16 AM 		Reply to: Message 297 by IamJoseph
05-23-2008 2:03 AM

Re: WHAT'S IN A NAME - PLENTY!
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On the ther hand, not specifying your point of my mistake can also be a form if dysfunction.
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Now, see if you can rewrite that in English.
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Joseph, other people can see your glaring mistakes. It is not our job to point out the thousands of nonsensical sentences that you've posted on EvC, and explain what's wrong with each one. What's interesting is that you seem to be incapable of perceiving your faults and correcting them.
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The medical paper that I linked to may help you understand why that is.
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Again!
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bluegenes
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05-23-2008 6:33 AM 		Reply to: Message 299 by IamJoseph
05-23-2008 4:06 AM

Re: WHAT'S IN A NAME - PLENTY!
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I have understood 'EVERYTHING' argued and responded -
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You usually understand what others write, in a sense, but that is not the point of the paper.
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Schizophrenia patients exhibit impairment in the recognition of incorrect, but not correct, linguistic stimuli at all but the sublexical level of language processing. The patients were not impaired in the recognition of nonlinguistic stimuli.
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Conclusion
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This language-specific differential impairment could explain speech abnormalities in schizophrenia. The nonrecognition of incorrect linguistic information would prevent patients from correcting the abnormal speech they may occasionally produce. A model of decreased power of linguistic computations (reduced number of operations) adequately accounts for this differential impairment.
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I mention this because you have other symptoms of schizophrenia. It's not just the inability to perceive your own chronic linguistic errors.
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