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Author Topic:   What specific evidence would people require to believe in God's existence?
Greatest I am
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Message 77 of 222 (381289)
01-30-2007 2:14 PM


Belief
The only thing that will make believers out of non believers is either miracles or a recognition of the Perfection of the systems that God has set in place for us to live in. I should add that a direct communication also does the trick.
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DL

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Message 82 of 222 (381787)
02-01-2007 10:08 PM
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Re: Belief
She would not hide forever.
I challenge you to name one imperfect system in our greater reality.
Nothing personal because we all have a specific purpose assigned by God. That would not be fair.
Regards
DL

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Message 85 of 222 (381741)
02-01-2007 9:09 PM
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Re: Belief
I know of DNA it is a wonderfully functioning system.
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DL

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Message 86 of 222 (381744)
02-01-2007 9:12 PM
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Re: Belief
Replecation is working.
Perfection might not like this system though. I think it might bite us back.
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DL

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Message 89 of 222 (381753)
02-01-2007 9:26 PM
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02-01-2007 9:18 PM


Re: Belief
It has served us well for 30,000 years. that is perfect enough for this boy.
I did say larger systems.
The point has been made for our purposes here.
Not being an expert on everything, if someone does come up with some one-upmanship. I wont care.
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DL

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Message 93 of 222 (381839)
02-02-2007 8:54 AM
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02-02-2007 7:56 AM


Re: Belief
All of the above.
"Or is that just the years without death and disease from mutations and genetic flaws ...." Who promised you that.
Sounds like whatever your looking for is personal.
I doubt that I can help from here buddy.
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DL

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Message 94 of 222 (381841)
02-02-2007 9:05 AM
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02-02-2007 7:30 AM


Re: Belief
Standard definitions for Perfection will do.
Our planet is a good place to look for perfect systems. The Bible even proclaims it when it speaks of the bird not worrying about tomorrow etc. God provides.
I s a flower or a baby not Perfect systems.
Telepathy is real and is used by God as He so wishes. We usually call it the Holy Ghost.
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DL

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Message 99 of 222 (384410)
02-11-2007 12:32 PM


Systems
The universe has been in progress for many years.
It it were not perfect for us, we would not likely be here.
If one cannot believe in a God that is perfect then one cannot be a Christian. Placing limits to God is not allowed.
Our purpose is to reproduce and learn of good and evil.
We are doing both successfully, perfectly.
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DL

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Message 101 of 222 (392362)
03-30-2007 4:30 PM
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03-30-2007 11:07 AM


Re: Systems
Populations rise even as we suffer all the woes that God has created and subjects man to.
More seek God today than ever before.
Things are good as far as God is concerned, I would think.
There is a job for man though in the larger picture and that is of working on the numbers of the woe in question.
Regards
DL

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Message 104 of 222 (393451)
04-05-2007 8:58 AM
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04-04-2007 3:10 PM


Re: Systems
I agree.
Only a miracle will ever convince some. Including myself. I was an extremely potent non believer before God communicated with me.
Without this direct contact I doubt that I would believe especially when the Bible is so hard to understand. Especially when the church itself seems confused. IE. Why does the church baptise when Jesus already paid for all the sins of mankind. Babies are born perfect and have no original sin.
Unless one sees the perfection of God's systems or has some kind of personal experience with God, I do not see anything writen that in and of itself points to God. Unfortunate indeed.
Regards
DL

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Message 107 of 222 (399517)
05-06-2007 9:51 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by CanadianBiologyGeek
05-05-2007 3:23 PM


Re: Belief
The little I know of DNA. Perhaps it's perfection lies in the facts you state. If it were different, we would not be here. If being here is part of Perfection then DNA is doing the job required. We remain in Perfection.
Make sence?
Regards
DL

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