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Author Topic:   What specific evidence would people require to believe in God's existence?
Rob 
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Message 14 of 222 (323648)
06-19-2006 11:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by mjfloresta
06-15-2006 12:21 AM


Great question...
I would find it much easier to believe in God or 'a God' if there was something concrete I could put my hands on. Such as rocks and water and the like.
It would also help if that matter was so utterly incomprehensible, that science wouldn't be able to so easily agree on it's base components and origin.
If life were more of a mystery and not so easily understood it would be helpful. As it is now it all clearly explains itself.
If the universe was infinite, 'or so appeared', and otherwise incomprehendible, it would make it easier to believe in 'the other'.
If even without a cohesive natural explanation there was a mysterious need for a moral framework in man, that would make it easier.
If God would come on a space ship or even better as one of us, and clearly speak the truth and show the way.
If while here, He could perform miracles, and then die for me to prove who He is, that would be best case evidence.
And If He promised to make right, every foul thing in life, while somehow not taking away my free will, I would be impressed.
And last but not least, If He gave me a manual or something to decipher all of this mess, I would be obliged.
Other than that, I don't know what else He could do without totally imposing His perfect reality on people who really don't want it if it doesn't include their sin of choice.

Any biters in the stream?

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Message 16 of 222 (323659)
06-19-2006 11:58 PM
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06-19-2006 6:01 PM


oops! wrong thread...

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Message 17 of 222 (323663)
06-20-2006 12:01 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by nwr
06-19-2006 11:57 PM


We're sinners
That's truth, that's fact. That's where the portal into reality starts.
No go there?
NO go for you!
Edited by Rob, : No reason given.

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Rob 
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Message 19 of 222 (323673)
06-20-2006 12:32 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by AdminNosy
06-20-2006 12:06 AM


Re: Second warning for Rob
There was no condition to not reply.
Please If I may indulge you sir. This thread is about what is required to believe in God. I wrote a response that I thought was lighthearted and meaningful. One of the regulars who is given incredible grace, permit, and license by the administrators (and who I believe is part of the admin) took the opprotunity to personally attack the faith of people in a very clever yet transparent response to my post.
My post has everything to do with evidence of God's existence, and that thread carries even into this reply...
It is not a difficult concept. It is one of the most obvious and glaring facts in life. That we are all sinners. We love to point it out in others, but somehow cannot bring ourselves to see it in the mirror.
That is God's only trick on us. It is His way of excluding the dishonest. It takes honesty to see one's own sin. But if you can do it, then all of reality begins to make sense. He placed all of our sight behind that one simple and tiny thread in the truth. And it is the one thing we cannot deny, and the one that we resist with the most outrageous passion and fire.
The evidence for God is right there on your conscious... That is my opinion. I don't see the need for the threats! Am I not allowed to respond to antagonists? My address is available to all. If you have a personal beef, feel freee to engage me in private. I would do the same, but the worst of the offenders do not give me that luxury and hide behind their web...
Edited by Rob, : No reason given.

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Rob 
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Message 23 of 222 (323703)
06-20-2006 2:05 AM
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06-20-2006 1:48 AM


Re: Second warning for Rob
I will reply privately by email...

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Message 25 of 222 (323711)
06-20-2006 2:30 AM
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06-20-2006 2:27 AM


Re: Second warning for Rob
because it is off topic for this thread! I would love to, but the admins would manifest demons...

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