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A question that was first presented by Socrates.

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10-21-2004 10:10 AM 		Reply to: Message 138 by riVeRraT
10-21-2004 10:03 AM

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Is it murder if he created it
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So you agree with abortion? I'm surprised at that.....
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10-21-2004 10:25 AM 		Reply to: Message 141 by riVeRraT
10-21-2004 10:19 AM

nice dodge - let's try this a different way - What if I create clones of myself - I can blow them away because I created them?
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Or are you saying that God creates EVERYTHING?
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10-22-2004 9:37 AM 		Reply to: Message 146 by riVeRraT
10-22-2004 6:34 AM

So if I rape a woman and she had a baby, we can kill it because it's a result of man's sin?
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How do you keep all this nonsense straight in your head?
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10-23-2004 8:46 AM 		Reply to: Message 157 by riVeRraT
10-23-2004 8:22 AM

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a distinct time in is life where the devil and God were taking "bets"
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wow - the christian godhead is more evil than I thought.
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10-23-2004 12:33 PM 		Reply to: Message 159 by riVeRraT
10-23-2004 12:02 PM

But your comments (as other have said) - answer the questions for us.
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Let's make this real simple - does God Create everything or not?
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IF he creates everything he creates evil.
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10-23-2004 12:39 PM 		Reply to: Message 161 by riVeRraT
10-23-2004 12:37 PM

The christian godhead - creating things to mistreating in his cosmic petting zoo?
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10-24-2004 7:51 AM 		Reply to: Message 163 by riVeRraT
10-23-2004 11:28 PM

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Master thespian, brilliant!
Think about it for awhile, and really ask yourself what is evil, and who is responsible for it.
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Well from what you have said here - It has to be God.
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Also, answer this, do you like your life?
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Well let's think about this -
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Good job (pays well, hours good)
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Nice house(s)
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Loving family
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Good Friends
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Happy with the direction in which my life is going.
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so no I don't like my life - I LOVE my life.
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and the point of this question was? (it's not the lead into some christian scare tactics is it? I've heard them from bigger and better thanks).
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10-24-2004 9:08 AM 		Reply to: Message 167 by riVeRraT
10-24-2004 8:53 AM

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I have a different perspective on science now, it is good by itself, but when you add mans reasoning to it, it becomes bad.
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But Science is inherently of "mans reasoning"!
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10-24-2004 5:02 PM 		Reply to: Message 173 by riVeRraT
10-24-2004 4:38 PM

and how do you think those observations are arrived at?
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let's say we are observing some form of wave - don't we have to reason HOW we are going to observate it before we can? (don't fall into the literal trap of "observation" being just a man watching with the naked eye?).
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