A question that was first presented by Socrates.

The good is seperate from God?Hebrews 8:10
This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.You are born knowing right from wrong, in your HEART.

If you created a painting, and didn't like it. Then you ripped it up, isn't that your right?But what if you created 2 paintings, and one destroyed the other, what would you do to the first one?

Does God sin against himself?Also doesn't he give us the right to choose, then when we screw up, he gets pissed. I look at it as though he is striaghting us out when he does something like a flood. He probably feels bad for us, but I don't think it s a sin he is commiting.

Is it murder if he created it? He has the right to get pissed at us, or our choices that we make from our gift of free will. You also have the right to get pissed at people who don't follow God's will, because you know right from wrong.

I read half way through the thread, and my thoughts are that all that God creates is good. But being the Loving God that he is, he gives us free will to choose things that are not good.It seems to me that God only gets pissed at things that have the right to choose good or bad, and only gets pissed when we choose bad. He created us to be good. This is why when your born again, you are a new creation in God's eyes, and you understand better why you were created, for the good. For Love. God is good and Love.If he didn't give us the free will to choose, then we would be no better than paintings on a wall.Also:Hebrews 8:10
This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.So we know right from wrong. It is by this decree that you have made a choice not to believe in God, because of all the bad that you see come from it. I don't blame you one bit. Its hard to understand that the bad comes from man, not God.

???How do you get that from what I said, please clarify.
Oh wait, you think that we create life when we procreate. Thats why you think abortion is ok?
We don't create it, he does. He created everything, even your silly post.

You cannot create anything. You should know that.
You make stuff from what God created. It all belongs to him.

Everything you mentioned is a direct result of mans sin, but you can't see that can you?

riverrat writes: Whats so off-topic about that?
Theres your answer, I guess you missed it???I went into further detail to cover some of the replies you made throughout this topic.Change the word creates with command if you must, but I thought you knew that he creates things by commanding it, or speaking it with his mouth.

What the heck are you talking about?
You are lost.
What nonsense, your out of context posts? Your right, I don't know how I deal with it.Answer the following:
When did I ever say its ok to kill anything?
When did I ever say abortion was ok?
What does this have to do with God commanding good?

No, he created that, which by free will, can choose to sin. He doesn't make the decsion to actually sin or not, thats left up to you and me, thats our gift from God.Understnading what we were created for would help you to see that better.2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!Galatians 6
14May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which[1] the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world. 15Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is a new creation. 16Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule, even to the Israel of God.

What is evil Lam?

Just how is it guaranteed? #1
#2:
John 316"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[1] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.The way I read that passage, the perish means not to exist anymore, thats not suffering.#3 Who am I to even try to judge what will happen to others when they die? Everyone goes through life a little differently, and I will never understand what another person goes through, only him and God will.So the way I see it for me is, that God gave me a gift of life, that was good. Then he gave me a chance to believe in his son, and I do. Thats the second gift. I am up 2-0. Once I achieve eternal life, it will be 3-0. I try my best to give back to God with every breath I take, but I am only human, and subject to the world around me, and the strongholds within my flesh. I am constantly working on it though, I feel I have come a long way, and understand God's purpose for me.I also have noticed that the bad that happens to me (not others around me) is a direct corrolation to the amount of sin I commit. Also the amount of faith I have. So its my choice of sin that brings evil to my door, and gives legal contract to the devil to mess with me. So God isn't really to blame for anything bad in my life. If something bad happens to the one I love, that is between that person and God. But that person brings it on themself, so I have them to blame for hurting me if something happens to them. These are my humble observations, and it took years to see it.The good is in our hearts, we just have to access it, by doing understanding God's will for us.Now I sound like a crazy Christian, lol, its official.

2 very good points.
Could you point me to those passages about perishing. A friend and I were trying to figure that out.Then about Job, I totally understand, but that was a distinct time in is life where the devil and God were taking "bets" with him to test his righteousness. I am sure I will go through something like that also, but for the time being I have noticed this corrolation taking place. I guess it's me paying for my sins? I have also sinned so much in my life that I would expect the worst for myself. I don't know, God will judge me based on what I went through.
Job ended up being a big winner in the end, so even though the bad came first, it was followed by a tremenous amount of good to him. He got extra blessings, a direct corrolation based on what he went through, and how his faith held up.

Why?Why don't you answer my questions either, or are you only limited to useless comments?