A question that was first presented by Socrates.

If you created a painting, and didn't like it. Then you ripped it up, isn't that your right?But what if you created 2 paintings, and one destroyed the other, what would you do to the first one?

Does God sin against himself?Also doesn't he give us the right to choose, then when we screw up, he gets pissed. I look at it as though he is striaghting us out when he does something like a flood. He probably feels bad for us, but I don't think it s a sin he is commiting.

Is it murder if he created it? He has the right to get pissed at us, or our choices that we make from our gift of free will. You also have the right to get pissed at people who don't follow God's will, because you know right from wrong.

I read half way through the thread, and my thoughts are that all that God creates is good. But being the Loving God that he is, he gives us free will to choose things that are not good.It seems to me that God only gets pissed at things that have the right to choose good or bad, and only gets pissed when we choose bad. He created us to be good. This is why when your born again, you are a new creation in God's eyes, and you understand better why you were created, for the good. For Love. God is good and Love.If he didn't give us the free will to choose, then we would be no better than paintings on a wall.Also:Hebrews 8:10
This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.So we know right from wrong. It is by this decree that you have made a choice not to believe in God, because of all the bad that you see come from it. I don't blame you one bit. Its hard to understand that the bad comes from man, not God.

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Is it murder if he created it

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So you agree with abortion? I'm surprised at that.....

???How do you get that from what I said, please clarify.
Oh wait, you think that we create life when we procreate. Thats why you think abortion is ok?
We don't create it, he does. He created everything, even your silly post.

nice dodge - let's try this a different way - What if I create clones of myself - I can blow them away because I created them?Or are you saying that God creates EVERYTHING?

You cannot create anything. You should know that.
You make stuff from what God created. It all belongs to him.

Please reread the thread and make sure you understand what the thread is all about. Your post there is completely off-topic.

So God creates crack-babies, strip malls, oil spills, child molestors, and genocidal maniacs?Nice guy...But that must mean that God also creates homosexuality, so then it must be a good thing!And He must have also created abortions, so how can they be argued against?This message has been edited by pink sasquatch, 10-21-2004 03:51 PM

Everything you mentioned is a direct result of mans sin, but you can't see that can you?

riverrat writes: Whats so off-topic about that?
Theres your answer, I guess you missed it???I went into further detail to cover some of the replies you made throughout this topic.Change the word creates with command if you must, but I thought you knew that he creates things by commanding it, or speaking it with his mouth.

So if I rape a woman and she had a baby, we can kill it because it's a result of man's sin?How do you keep all this nonsense straight in your head?

What the heck are you talking about?
You are lost.
What nonsense, your out of context posts? Your right, I don't know how I deal with it.Answer the following:
When did I ever say its ok to kill anything?
When did I ever say abortion was ok?
What does this have to do with God commanding good?

But if God creates everything, He created man's sin.