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Edge: Sorry, Fred, that's not what Moose meant. There is a progression of fossil assemblages present in the record. You have never explained this.
Websters:
Progression
2) a sequence or succession, as of acts, happenings, etc.
I have also used this "progression" as being my fundimental evidence of evolution. Perhaps I am pushing things too far, but as I see it, in the fossil record, "Progression" and "Evolution" are synonymous.
The change from one situation to another situation is an evolution. This is independent of the mechanisms of that change. In itself, it doesn't say that Godly creative processes were or weren't the mechanism for the evolution. In itself, it doesn't say that the theory of evolution processes were or weren't the mechanisms for the evolution.
This is how I personally divorce the "fact of evolution" from the "theory of evolution"
An analogy to this thought process would be the "evolution" of the automobile. Autos have changed through time. In that case, we know that the evolutions were because of human creative processes.
Moose
Added by edit at c. 1:15 am ET, 1/15/02:
Perhaps I was negligent at the original time of posting this original message, but I have now gone back and given a more careful look at the Fred message in question. I now have a greater understanding of Fred's point. He had interpreted my use of the term "progression" to mean a sequence of events that were making some sort of progress in some direction. I think that's a pretty understandable, if erroneous interpretation. I guess it's some strange quirk in the English language that a progression doesn't necessarily mean that progress is being made. You could even have a progression of events leading to a regressive result.
Still Moose
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Old Earth evolution - Yes
Godly creation - Maybe
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