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Author Topic:   Impossible evolution of new beneficial proteins
Coragyps
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Message 17 of 75 (85149)
02-10-2004 5:55 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by CreationMan
02-10-2004 5:46 PM


Re: Mutation
Dr. Lee Spetner (biochemist) said that all point mutations studied on the molecular level tend to REDUCE the amount of information. Not increase it.
He was mistaken, then. Does a population of Mossi people in West Africa whose DNA codes for both hemoglobin A and hemoglobin C have a) more, b)the same amount of or c)less information in their genome than a neighboring population whose DNA only codes for hemoglobin A?

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Coragyps
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Message 34 of 75 (85496)
02-11-2004 6:48 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by CreationMan
02-10-2004 6:01 PM


Re: Surprise
Your little tribe which codes for multiple forms of hemoglobin has the same or even possibly less information.
Just because you have a new function in phenotype, doesn't necassarily mean you have to have an increase of new info in the genotype. Go take a bio 101 class for petes sake and stop waisting my time.
So being able to make two different proteins, where you could only make one before the mutation, is a decrease in information.
Right.
Under what definition of "information?"

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Coragyps
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Message 36 of 75 (85499)
02-11-2004 6:57 PM
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02-11-2004 6:43 PM


Re: Clarify
Never will you ever see a gene that codes for reptile scales, undergo a mutation or mutations (even over time) that changes that reptile scale information (code) to bird feather information (code). I have seen no demonstration of this.
Where did I see that.....
there is a breed of chicken that has feathers down its legs where most chickens have scales (scutes, actually). Darwin's Terrier, do you know something about that?
I'll be back... heck, I might even find a reference to this - scales to feathers...it can't be done, except when chickens and such do it....
Added in edit: start here -
Dinosauria On-Line
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Coragyps
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Message 61 of 75 (85846)
02-12-2004 3:13 PM
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02-12-2004 12:55 PM


Re: Mice
Biologically speaking that is not evolution. If you start with a mouse and you finish wth a mouse, that's not evolution, that's just mice.
And similarly, when you start with a rat-sized primate and end up with one that argues by means of a keyboard, that's not evolution. They're still just primates.

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