What if Satan reformed?

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Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

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Though that isn't exactly like your version.As for the murderer from the beginning, Jesus said:

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Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

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He said that to believers, by the way. (John 8:31)

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I was only providing the reference for Faith - and I did point out that it doesn't match her version.
(By the way, that seems to be the only direct reference to "Lucifer" in the entire KJV.)

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Hey, viewfromthetop,I was kinda hoping for a response to Message 85, if you can spare a minute from your sermon.

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Sorry, that still doesn't make any sense. Why would God hate His own sanitation director? And wouldn't it be counterproductive to throw His own sanitation director into the fire? I've got one. What? Any chance of an English translation? Well, no. I think my point was that Ctrl+Alt+Delete is a way to avoid throwing the computer away every time something goes wrong. The question remains: Why would God design a system that can't recover from a crash? Why would He use Satan and then just throw him away with no attempt to repair/rescue/recyle him?Allow me to repeat the question, "WHAT IF Satan reformed?"Stow the rhetoric about why Satan can't reform. What if he did?

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Well, you weren't the one I asked. So, no. Technically, I didn't want an answer from you. But the question still is "What if?", whether you like it or not. Prattling on and on about how it's impossible just doesn't answer the question. What does ownership have to do with it?If the question was, "What if corn became peanut butter?", what would the answer be?How would the nutritive value compare with traditional peanut butter? Would artificial colours and flavours have to be added? How would the cost compare? What effects would corn-to-peanut-butter production have on the agricultural economy?Answers to the question, "What if Satan reformed?" should also answer questions like: Would Satan live on the same block as me in heaven? Would he be my supervisor, based on his greater experience? If one believes in purgatory, how long would Satan spend there? And so on....On a more serious note, the specific questions asked in the OP are:

1. Would God forgive?
2. Would evil disappear?
3. How would you discern spirits if they all said the same thing?
4. How would you get the memo?

"It's impossible" is a pretty empty answer.

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That's not much of a bite. And it doesn't answer the question either. Do you have anything to say about the topic?

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So, still nothing to say about the topic?Let me repeat those questions from the OP one more time:

1. Would God forgive?
2. Would evil disappear?
3. How would you discern spirits if they all said the same thing?
4. How would you get the memo?

Remember: the premise is that Satan has gone to God, asking for forgiveness, "asking Jesus into his heart", etc. Answer the questions with that thought in mind.

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That isn't how it works. We're not discussing what will happen. We're discussing a "what if?". Whether the premise is true or false is irrelevant to the discussion.So, your God is not a forgiving God?
If He wouldn't forgive Satan, what makes you think He'd forgive you?Which brings us to: How do you know you haven't been lied to by those "spirits" who tell you that you are forgiven but Satan is not?

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If you want to stay on topic, you can answer the posts that have not been ruled off-topic - for example, Message 111. What empirical evidence? You didn't present any.

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What post are you refering to?And maybe you can explain to us how you are privy to what is "satan inspired".

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Ah... so I'm "satan inspired".That won't come as a surprize to some, but I'm a bit disappointed: since you have such a high regard for "Satan", I thought you might be a Satanist. I don't think we have one of those around here. But on to the topic. The OP asks: If Satan reformed,

1. Would God forgive?
2. Would evil disappear?
3. How would you discern spirits if they all said the same thing?
4. How would you get the memo?

Any thoughts?

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I'm still curious as to how you know so much about Satan's thought processes. Clearly it is an issue because there's a thread about it and a hundred and thirty-odd posts by people who think it is an issue. If it isn't an issue to you, don't participate in the thread. And it's a hypothetical question. It doesn't have to "make sense".Use your imagination. What if?

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"No truth in him" suggests that he doesn't tell the truth, not that he's incapable. The stereotypical Satan chooses to lie for his own purposes, just iike we do. If the prison doors were opened and the captives set free, it would be hard to sell Get-out-of-jail-free cards, wouldnt it? Satan seems to be a pretty useful asset for organized religion.From God's viewpoint, I think Satan would be more useful as the ultimate reformed sinner. Edited by ringo, : Splling.

(I think you mean "ultimate" there. "Penultimate" means "second last".)Why would God "have" to deal with people who tried to go without Him? If He did that, how would you know?

Non sequitur. Humans who "have" God have also not learned how to be at peace and be humble. Having God doesn't seem to help. As I already mentioned, "God's plan" would make more sense if Satan was the supreme example of sinner in parallel to Jesus as the supreme example of saint. His repentence would be the supreme example for human repentence. The theme of every sermon would be, "If God can forgive Satan, He can forgive you."Edited by ringo, : Speling.