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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Animal Crackers (1930) Marx Bros. I often describe our processes here at work as "Marxist". Ah. Well, if we're going to start talking comedy teams: The Marx BrothersBob and Ray Stiller and Meara Burns and Schreiber Burns and Carlin (yes, it's the same Burns in the last two teams) Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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Huntard Member (Idle past 2326 days) Posts: 2870 From: Limburg, The Netherlands Joined: |
Catholic Scientist writes:
Actually, he's a Brit, he just lives there. since you're czech At least that's what I gather from the "UK Election" thread. Edited by Huntard, : Did the quote wrong
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
The Marx Brothers Bob and Ray Stiller and Meara Burns and Schreiber Burns and Carlin (yes, it's the same Burns in the last two teams) I remember Bob and Ray from Saturday Night Live in the 70s singing Rod Stewert's "Do you think I'm Sexy". Funnnnny! (Still no stooges appreciation in the thread eh? Why, I'll gouge your eyes out!) I think the Stooges surreal voilent humor, that makes me laugh, is somehow indicative of my mental profile. Not sure. Must get myself to a team of Viennese psychiatrists for experimental evaluation Does anyone else strongly subscribe to the type of humor one laughs at being indicative/relative to ones intelligence/personality? I had hoped the thread would eventually turn to why women and men find humor funny. Or not. Does it benefit evolution? . . . Oni's comment about fat comedians was interesting:
Fat comics get lots of women... lots. It's confidence they seek. Jumped Up Chimpanzee also offered an interesting comment:
from my own observation I think that it's often the other way around. I think that they tend to laugh along with men they find physically attractive, even if they're not genuinely funny. (i.e. a good looking guy can say the worst or most crass joke and get a laugh). Anyone care to expand? Edited by dronester, : No reason given.
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aiki Member (Idle past 4324 days) Posts: 43 Joined: |
hey, thank you for the welcome
I'm female and a Brit but not a comedian/actress, just someone who has, at times, watched too much TV...
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aiki Member (Idle past 4324 days) Posts: 43 Joined: |
Yep, scared! I found this site via the wonderful Fundies Say the Darndest Things, and I really enjoy reading the evolution/creation debate etc - this is easily the best science'n'religion debate site I've encountered.
I have learned loads from this site, but I don't feel that my scientific background is strong enough to meaningfully contribute to any great extent. Maybe one day.
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onifre Member (Idle past 2982 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
Damn you forum participants, I can not view videos at work because of the firewall and internet filters. In the future could you all at least write a sentence to describe why you think the video is illustrative to your point? Sorry dude I keep forgetting that. I'll make sure, for sure, next time, lol.
I like Sarah Silverman. I obviously don't know her in person, but she seems like she MIGHT be the type who is funny but in a caustic, sarcastic way. I have known those types, but wouldn't want to date them for long. I don't know her personally either, I smoked out with her briefly after a show a few times, but comics after shows are very toned down. Especially around each other. I'm sure she's how you described her on a date or in a relationship though.
The other two you listed aren't exactly world-class comedians. Tina Fey? I'm pretty sure she is world-class. 30 Rock? Ok on Andi, she's not really world-class, yet. But I personally, having seen her destroy audiences (and having lost to her at the Montreal Comedy Festival auditions) find her funny.
Looking over my thread, it appears everyone can easily name their favorite comedy movies, but is having a difficult time with the lady comedien list. Hmm.
Lastly, as a comedien, I expected from you at least one classic comedy film in your list. From before the 70s? Or from before the 50s? I think we've finally entered into an area where you and I will disagree. Sadly, I find the humor in movies before the 70's to be rather shitty, slapstick stuff that, ehh, I don't really care for. Mel Brooks and Woody Allen are as far back as I like. That's not to say that I wouldn't watch something you recommend, I'll give it a chance. But I haven't found much I like. Here's one that pisses off every old comic I tell, I didn't find Dr. Strangelove funny. I know, I know...but what can I tell ya.
Limiting myself to only five films was difficult for me, perhaps it was doubly-difficult for you. Absolutely. Here's a bit more: 1) Blazing Saddles2) The Gods must be Crazy 3) National Lampoon's Vacation 4) The Pink Panther (the original) 5) Naked Gun - Oni
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 765 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Still no stooges appreciation in the thread eh? Nyuck! Nyuck! Nyuck! I love their goofy crap still! Particularly the proletariat vs. wealthy stuff. And when the dog sniffed the frozen fish and flopped over dead. Curley said, with surprise, "Hmm! Tarpon monoxide!!"
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onifre Member (Idle past 2982 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
The Marx Brothers Bob and Ray Stiller and Meara Burns and Schreiber Burns and Carlin (yes, it's the same Burns in the last two teams) I've only heard bits from Burns and Carlin and The Marx Bros, haven't heard the other guys. I'll check 'em out. How bout: 1) Pryor and Wilder2) Korman and Conway and my all time favorite: 3) Bunker and Meathead - Oni Edited by onifre, : No reason given.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 765 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Here's one that pisses off every old comic I tell, I didn't find Dr. Strangelove funny. That likely is truly an age thing. We old farts actually grew up with A-Bomb drills at school, and Strangelove deflated all that crap so very well. You young pups missed the release of tension the movie gave."You'll answer to the Coca-Cola Company for this!"
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onifre Member (Idle past 2982 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
Look at the movie "The Sweetest Thing." Cameron Diaz, Christina Applegate, Selma Blair... and which one is funny again? Sure they can act, and Applegate has been the victim of many of my sexual dreams but, that doesn't mean they're funny.
Tracy Ulmann has spent her entire life in comedy and she's neither of those caricatures either. Ehh, ok. Ulmann is funny. Never seen her do stand up though. I don't know if she does?
Yeah she is, not to mention obnoxious. I can't stand her or Garafolo. Early, early 80's MTV Garafolo I actually liked, but yeah as she got older she became obnoxious.
It's a real turn-off to hear political activism in the middle of a set. Nobody fucking cares what your politics are. Just make me laugh, bitch, that's your job. If I wanted political commentary I'd watch C-SPAN, thanks. Very few can pull it off. I actually find Bill Maher not funny at all, or Dennis Miller. They come off as pretentious too. When you heard Bill Hicks rant about politics you knew he was speaking from the soul, because it was a very narrow view. Miller and Maher do hack left/right jokes that is being done at all the open mic's by new-comers.
My only criticism with Carey is that sometimes he tries so hard to be funny he ends up not being funny. Yeah I've felt that too. I've heard he's one of those actors that has to be deeply into the project or he just does that "try to hard" thing. Man on the Moon and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind are amazing films and amazing performances from him though.
And now the Doug Song is my ringtone That's classic. - Oni
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onifre Member (Idle past 2982 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
That likely is truly an age thing. We old farts actually grew up with A-Bomb drills at school, and Strangelove deflated all that crap so very well. You young pups missed the release of tension the movie gave. "You'll answer to the Coca-Cola Company for this!" This is exactly what they do. They tell me why it should be funny or was funny, then they give me a quote from the movie. lol I'm sure I'll be talking to a bunch of young guys in the future asking them why they didn't find Anchorman funny, then I'll say: "It's made with real bits of panther. Experts say, 60% of the time, it works everytime." And they still won't get it. - Oni
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onifre Member (Idle past 2982 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
Bill Cosby Robin Williams Bob Newhart and of course, George Carlin Good list! Can't disagree with any. Except for maybe Robin Williams in his later years has disappointed me a bit. I would have to split the list in 2 - one for edgy comics and one for natural performers. Edgy comics: 1) Lenny Bruce2) George Carlin 3) Sam Kinison 4) Richard Pryor 5) William "Bill" Hicks (as his momma liked to call him) Natural Performers: 1) Steve Martin2) Bill Cosby 3) Bob Newhart 4) Eddie Murphy 5) George Carlin and why not, Worst Comics EVER: 1) Gallagher2) Jay Leno 3) Carrot Top (even though he's a really nice guy) 4) Pauly Shore 5) every female comic - Oni Edited by onifre, : No reason given.
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Definitely listen to some Bob and Ray, it's the driest humor you could ever imagine, but very clever. I was listening to a tape of their best stuff in the car and had to pull over before I hit something.
I absolutely agree with the first two teams you mention. All in the Family never did much for me. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1285 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Never really heard any Lenny or Bill Hicks, so I have no opinion.
I like Steve Martin's stand up, but his movies by and large left me completely flat. Gallagher is a guilty pleasure, he always tickled me. I'd list among my least favorites: Will FerrellAdam Sandler (he should die for Mr. Deeds) Pauly Shore Carrot Top Pee Wee Herman Phil Hartman John Lovitz That's enough, I'm sure you're ready to burst a vein already. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 765 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
This is exactly what they do. I told you I was an old fart......
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