Catholicism versus Protestantism down the centuries

Also, you might be interested to know that there is reason to believe Jesuits started the Civil War. Lincoln believed this, as I think he was quoted saying at the link I gave a while back ...

Well, to clarify, I had read Fox's Book of Martyrs, I knew that Rome had persecuted and murdered many for refusing to accept her rule over them, but I had no idea the extent of it, especially the role of the Jesuits, or that there is good reason to see it persisting into the present, the same aims -- 1) destroy the Protestant Reformation, 2) recover rulership of the world once had through the Holy Roman Empire ...

Its nice that you have the position of deciding those matters of legitimacy.

Who do you refer us to, in regard to how many more than 35 people intially formed the original company of the first colony?
And, just how wrong in his numbers was michael????

Matthew 25 writes:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Also, you might be interested to know that there is reason to believe Jesuits started the Civil War. Lincoln believed this, as I think he was quoted saying at the link I gave a while back, and you can also find this discussed by an ex-priest from the 19th century, Father Chiniquy, in his book "Fifty Years in the "Church" of Rome which I believe is online. You have to read the unabridged version to get the whole story. Why would the Jesuits, and the Pope himself who apparently wrote a letter to Jefferson Davis supporting war, be supporting the Confederates? Some desire to keep slavery in place? To weaken the Protestant foundations of America? I'm not really sure, I don't remember the account well enough, just that they were thought to be behind it, and Chiniquy and others also say it was Jesuits who had Lincoln assassinated.

There is not a person at that judgment that has received eternal life.

So you disagree with Matthew who says the nations will be gathered and the nations will be divided.Do you believe the Bible?

You are the one making the claim. Present the source. Also, what does this have to do with the topic?
In other words what the fucks your point by rehashing this 35 people thing?

No mention of a 100 year period to get straight, no mention of some second chance, rather a specific message of everlasting punishment and eternal life.But also, absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic which is about differences between Roman Catholicism and Protestantism.

kofh2u writes: That was the same confidence that Neanderthals had before the flood.Man has gone through 22 extinctions as our species evolved over the last 7 million years.
Death entered the world with Adam, because that species did not or could not adapt to the ever changing environment

You can not show anyone your faith without your works.

kofh2u writes: Here is a report o one incident and a short confirmation of the problemthat developed

You ask me, what is the point in questing what I said Michaael wrote in his book, after you said he was wrong and unqualified to even have said it?????I guess the point is that you obviously dismiss responses by attacking the source and not the substance.

Assuming that michael who is a highly educated man from a prestigious university knows something about supplying references to things he hasthe nerve to publish,

I insist that the 35 fledging newbies who arrived in America were no threat to the natives, and logically, were very much at their mercy.

In the light of such a reasonable insight, the native Americans might well have assumed a superior position as more Europeans flowed into the country.

The Culture of Raiding by the young bucks, as sign of thier manhood, seems to have been the spark that started a growing anomousity between them and the white farmers.

Here is a report o one incident and a short confirmation of the problemthat developed:Why Apaches Were Considered Hostile
Apaches usually formed small, undetectable groups to assault the cattle herds of missions and small
ranches, maintaining all the while their pledges of peace. Nevertheless, on one occasion in the mid-
1750s, during a dry spell, hunger drove them to organize a group of three hundred men that
descended on the mission herds near San Juan Bautista, killing hundreds of cattle. Since the attack
occurred in March, the animals were thin and the Apaches took "only the tongue," a common practice.Similar butchering occurred among the herds belonging to the San Antonio missions; one observer suggested that Apaches took on average twenty head of cattle a day for food by the 1760s and 1770s.

The Bible simply contradicts itself on this matter. Some parts say you just need faith and some parts say that you have to do works.