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Author | Topic: AntiGod education should not be compulsary (even for non wealthy) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Brian Member (Idle past 4990 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Hi,
Well if you type it with .com the Good Lord, our Saviour, will redirect you to His Blessed Website. And dont knock answersingenesis, it is the most entertianing site on the Net. Next time you go there, keep in mind that there are people out there who actually take everything on this site seriously. But on a serious note, I honestly think that answersingenesis treats its readers as if they are 5 years old, and these readers are so desparate to have some scrap of evidence to support their fairytales, that the 'scientists' at answersingenesis can write any garbage they want and their readers gobble it up without questioning anything. I personally find it embarrassing when I constantly open e-mails and on almost every one is a link from a disgrunteld Xian informing me that answersingenesis has all the answers. The website is a joke and an insult to anyone's intelligence. Brian.
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Taqless Member (Idle past 5944 days) Posts: 285 From: AZ Joined: |
AntiGod education should not be compulsary (even for non wealthy) ToE does not throw God into question and is, therefore, not "AntiGod". I would say you have a problem because your faith has a problem, so the correct way would be for you to take responsibility for yourself and develop a more mature faith/belief instead of trying to point fingers at scientists.
So I think evolution should not be taught in schools! Well, I would have to defer to hitchy's post #44 here. Are you against archeology, geology, etc. as well? Because they support the ToE. Where do you propose this would end? Back in Galileo's time again?
The results! (poor kids brought up with no clue, no hope, no right or wrong etc.) What results were you speaking of? Must have missed the actual support for your response.
May I humbly suggest that since the vast majority of Americans believe in a Creator (Yes Jesus as well, most of them!) That any compulsary education reflect that. Since you are such an open-minded person I suggest that we might as well go the extra effort and teach both majority religions in the world today, Christianity and Islam. However, Creation was not a science and teaching ONE religious creation only results in the alienation, then intolerance, etc of others.
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Taqless Member (Idle past 5944 days) Posts: 285 From: AZ Joined: |
...Also in the world's oldest book, where it talks of the future,... LOL, you don't get out much do you, or is it read much? If you are a young person jumping into the mix then I apologize, but you really need to provide SUPPORT or a line of REASON for what you write regardless of your age. "talks of the future...." talks of a future that has yet to happen, right? Maybe you should be worshipping Nostradamus?
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simple  Inactive Member |
Almost every single one of the founding fathers were Deists Founders, I think were mostly Christian, I don't know about 'fathers' you could be right, I've heard both. Nevertheless, the fact stands Christians they were. If they weren't it was so predominent a lot of folks would pretend to be.
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simple  Inactive Member |
'scientists' at answersingenesis can write any garbage they want and their readers gobble it up without questioning anything The world according to your opinion would be a darker place.
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simple  Inactive Member |
It can seem like an atheistic dream come true, but the actual Good take it to some appriciative pagans, and leave the kids alone
theory seems to only speak scientifically.
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simple  Inactive Member |
I would say you The problem is not in belief but in unbelief here. Stick to the facts in all sciences, none of which include evolution at all.
have a problem because your faith has a problem
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simple  Inactive Member |
but you really need to provide SUPPORT or a line I paraphrased a bible verse, if you want more support let me know. You don't seem to think much of the future.
of REASON for what you write regardless of your age. "talks of the future...." talks of a future that has yet to happen, right? Maybe you should be worshipping Nostradamus
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simple  Inactive Member |
What results were you speaking of? Must have missed the actual support for your response Results of a godless public school system. Drugs, suicide, murder, lack of faith, violence, etc.
Since you are such an open-minded person I suggest that we might as well go the extra Let people teach their own what they want. I don't support the compulsary anti God education system at all. If it had of reflected a Christian majority, prayer, etc. I may have had a different opinion. My opinion now? "Let My people go!!!" Leave the children alone. I came upon a poem on the net the other day that kinda summed it up. Here it iseffort and teach both majority religions in the world today, Christianity and Islam The Warning Take not the crosses from our gravesOf we, who died for you And take not Him, Whose cross it was From our children's schools The time of which all prophets spokeHas come, it's not just near Ten billion soldiers stand in line Their warning's very clear If you, with treachery, repayOur children, who now live We'll fight you from death's very doors For this, we'll not forgive. And this war won't be in vain,When we, with Jesus, come On fierce steeds, to take the earth From us you shall not hide!
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simple  Inactive Member |
Believe is something you do without evidence Like evolution. I know they feel convinced they have evidence but how it is interpreted is not science. You want your kids to learn it feel free. You want to force others, no way Hosea!
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simple  Inactive Member |
Well, you've shown no sign of being someone who is going to make a dent Your opinion of who would make a dent is weak. Did Jesus make a dent? Do you think only strict believers in the "something mysterious other than your God made us" will "make a dent?"! There are some who will not bend the knee to that clever hoax!
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hitchy Member (Idle past 5149 days) Posts: 215 From: Southern Maryland via Pittsburgh Joined: |
ok, gipper, let's stick to the facts in science shall we.
1) organisms use the same types of metabolic pathways. for instance, glycolysis. aerobic organisms also use the Kreb's (Citric acid) cycle and oxidative phosphorylation. all photosynthetic organisms use chlorophyll. from archaeabacteria to euglena to ferns to grasses to redwoods. 2) organisms use nucleic acids to store genetic information and make proteins. not only that, but they all use the same nucleotides in their DNA and RNA. 3) organisms use the same types of amino acids to make their proteins. not only that, but amino acids are chiral. guess what, the amino acids used have the same chirality in all organisms. 4) mitochondria and chloroplasts have their own DNA that is different from the DNA in the cells in which they are located. scientific explanation for the above facts--all organisms share a common ancestor. thus the theory of common descent, one of the backbones of evolution. this theory is falsifiable, find an exception to any of the above and its falsified. well, 4 could probably take a hit and not cause damage. this theory is testable. this theory has been under peer review for the last 153 years. sounds like science to me. alternative explanation--god wanted it that way for whatever reason. not science b/c it is not falsifiable or testable. you can say god did it, though, and not have a problem as long as you admit that he/she/it used the natural processes we find in evolution. see, you can "believe" in evolution and still admit that there is a god/creator without intentionally being dishonest!
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Rand Al'Thor Inactive Member |
Results of a godless public school system. Drugs, suicide, murder, lack of faith, violence, etc. The Results of drinking coffee: Brain cancer, AIDS, Blindness, larger shoe size, etc. Wow its fun to tie two unrelated subjects together. Now for a serious note:Come on man, how can you even hope to effectively argue against something you have no understanding of. Evolution has absolutely NOTHING to do with how life was created. Doesn't matter if aliens from Mars did it or god did. Evolution is about how life went through mutations and grew more complex AFTER it was created. Also, evolution has as much support as the Theory of Gravity. So unless you support your statements with evidence you are just wasting our time. And please do some research before you make assertions.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
By dent I meant, of course, showing scientific evidence and reasoning against the fact of evolution and/or the theory of evolution.
You are very big an bold statments but as yet have offered nothing to support what you say but those assertions. Some of those assertions also demonstrate that you are willing to make the mistake of attacking a well developed position with you know nothing about. Based on that I'm sure if the ToE is going to be modified it won't be anything you do.
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simple  Inactive Member |
scientific explanation for the above facts--all organisms share a common ancestor. You could explain it that way if you like. But they don't share a common ancestor, thats rot. Your scientific offerings have been weighed and found wanting. If you really believe that my condolances.
he/she/it used the natural processes we find in evolution really think you got it all figured out eh? God used lots of natural processes. He made them. Sometimes He works that way, other times He don't. However He works I don't want kid's subjected to your madness you call science, thinking it tell you things. Like it or not.
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