Gorilla strength

wat makes you think that just because your evidence claims bears are stronger, that my evidence is incorrect, minquelle knows a hell of alot he studies both brown bears and tigers, and he claims in his books that bears cant compete with cats in proporitional strength

and since cats and dogs are faster than bears(msn encarta article I quoted confirms this fact, as well as the "bears" book), what does than tell you??read minquelles books wat does that tell you lol

the reason sloth bears force tigers to retreat from kills is because tigers are solitary and if a tiger is injured in a fight it will surely perish, unlike bears tigers are carnivores i assume you kno that lol, meaning that if injured they will starve, however it is accepted that in a death fight situation the tiger prevails

lol great video with the dog, ive seen it before but it is hilarious

oh and ur mighty brown bear has been known to be killed by tigers lookhttp://www.alaskazoo.org/willowcrest/al.htmSome reports have even suggested that adult brown bears are occasionally killed and eaten by these tigers.

regarding the sloth bear it seems in an all out brawl with no limits the sloth bear dosent stand a chanceBengal tiger (Panthera tigris tigris): At the top of the forest food chain, this mighty, endangered cat slinks through the shadows in search of spotted deer and other prey, which sometimes includes sloth bears.Sloth bear | Smithsonian's National Zoo

ah yes i have found another source that claims that exctinct calfornia grizzlies were the largest sub species of brown bearsThe author wrote the following on the subject...Although the largest brown bears are now found in Alaska, it has been claimed by some authorities (Lydekker, 1901; Hittell, 1860) that the grizzlies which formerly inhabited the high peaks of the Sierra Nevada Range were, in fact, the heaviest of them all, weights of 1700 lb 771 kg and 1800 lb 816 kg being regularly attained. While these poundages must be considered somewhat excessive, it is interesting to see that Rowland Ward list a Nevada grizzly of 1536 lb 697 kg in their 1907 edition. The bear, shot by W F Sheard in 1881, was stated to have measured 11 ft 6 in 3.5 m in length (skin) and 10 ft 2 in 3.10 m across the outstretched front paws.Source: Gerald Wood's The Guinness Book of Animal Facts and Feats, p. 27 (3rd edition).

I already gave you proof in the web source from bowhunting, where it states that there is no animal the same size as powerful as a bear.And YOU stated that Hippos and Elephants are poportionally stronger than Bears. YOU have given NO evidence to back YOURE CLAIMS. BURDEN of proof is on YOU.BTW: Just found out: Hippos and other ungulates do not walk in a digitgrade manner. They walk Unguligrade (on the tips of their toes)(see page 224 of "Smithsonian Institution: Animal")

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

I dont have to. Bears have cumbersome paws, massive limbs, muscles thick throughout the limb, short, stiff back, and a very robust build, more so than cats. And yet i'm supposed to be that just because bears have "reduced collarbones" that they are weaker than cats and ungulates?? Bullhockey! All the mammals of the Carnivora order have reduced collarbones or none at all. It has veen been stated that cats have the merest hint of collar bones or none at all (Page 62 of National Geographic, June 1997 edition)

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

And My sources involve a scientitst who has expertize in Mammal morphology, emphasis on Mammal predators, and a Curator of the Smithsonian ZOO who has also studied Bears and cats, (Grizzlies, Sloth Bears and pumas and tigers, respectively)Not to mention I have posted other sources than agreed with them.My sources go with the physical evidence of bears-cat morphology. Youres is over a friggin set of collarbones.Edited by LudoRephaim, : No reason given.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

What books? I have not heared from you one title of any of his supposed books.And Read Ian Sterling's "Bears" pages 50-52. What does THAT tell you?

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

What a Friggin coincidence, so are Sloth Bears ("Like other bears Sloth Bears are usually solitary ecept during the mating season" Smithsonian Institution Animal, 190)
Too be fare, Sloth Bears have been known to be seen in numbers of 5-7. But then again I've never heared of a whole pack of Sloth Bears forcing one tiger from a kill. We are talking about a Sloth Bear forcing a Tiger from a kill, not a whole pride or pack. Ah, the arrogance of some. Bears are OMNIVORES, eating both plants AND animals. And they are in the mammal family Carnivora. And despite your case, Bears do not go out of their way to get injured, while cats always avoid it. And your sources proving this are what??
BTW: I'm not so sure a Tiger would perish if it got injured in a fight with another animal. It depends on the injury.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

I already stated the evidence for that in message 19! Get with dah program. And "ur" mighty Tiger has been killed by Brown bears to.Interspecies conflict. Which animal is the ultimate carnivore?http://dinets.travel.ru/russianbears.htmEdited by LudoRephaim, : No reason given.Edited by LudoRephaim, : No reason given.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

Why does the Sloth Bear not stand a chance? Just because they are potential food items for Bengal Tigers? Probably meaning small females and cubs or a surprise attack, not a direct one on one face off. Your source does NOT say that in a real fight the Sloth Bear would be found wanting.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4

So I guess that Black Bears weighed up to nearly a ton and the Brown Bears of the Kamchatcka penninsula got up to 2500 lbs (the stu Keck article I posted)?? Do American Black Bears weigh up to two tons (same article??The Stu Keck article, like The Grizzly almanac, considers those fantasy.Seems strange that Grizzlies would get that large in Nevada considering that Coastal Bears are far larger than Grizzlies of the interior (Alaskan Brown Bears tip the scales a 1200 lbs. Interior Grizzlies rarely reach 1000 pounds and over.)This is no doubt an exxageration. If you believe that California Grizzlies reached over 2000 plus lbs then i've got some oceanfront property in the mojave desert i would like to sell you.

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"The Nephilim where in the Earth in those days..." Genesis 6:4