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Author Topic:   Vapour canopy and fountains of the deep
Coyote
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Message 73 of 144 (507613)
05-06-2009 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Trev777
05-06-2009 5:12 PM


Re: bump for creationist contribution
A lot of cages rattled, -if there was no vapour canopy , there was no world wide flood but an (evolutionary) localised flood.
That wouldn't rattle our cages. That's what archaeology and history suggest. The idea of a world wide flood is a myth.
The pre-flood world was vastly different from today, our pathetic minds can't even start to imagine it.
If you are referring the the mythical flood at the mythical date of ca. 4350 years ago, this pathetic mind deals with that time period all the time. No imagination needed. Just a career as an archaeologist.
If there was a world wide flood, it would -- by definition -- be world wide. That is, everywhere one excavated there would be evidence of that flood! Its only 4,350 years back, and that's a pretty easy time period to explore.
Guess what! No evidence of a flood in any of the hundreds of excavations I have been associated with!
But we have lots of evidence of continuity across that time period. Continuity of human cultures, fauna and flora, mtDNA, soils, etc. We would have none of those if there had been a flood of the magnitude you seem to be pushing.
There are only two shows in town , all blind chance or meaning and purpose.
Perhaps the "two shows" are evidence vs. superstition, eh?
And you have provided no evidence, just statements of belief. Try again?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Coyote
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Message 106 of 144 (507911)
05-08-2009 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by Peepul
05-08-2009 12:13 PM


Creation "science" and the vapor canopy
This thread is deeply frustrating - speculation is being piled on speculation. Likewise we are discussing Peg's completely barmy ideas around hydrogen and oxygen, and 70% coverage of the earth's surface by water indicating that the whole earth was flooded at some point.
Let's stop.
Does anybody have any evidence for a vapour canopy?
Does anybody have any EVIDENCE for a vapour canopy?
But what we've seen on this thread is just what creation "science" has to offer!
They don't know why science is wrong, they just believe it is wrong. And because its wrong, why bother studying it and learning the details--when its obviously wrong!?!
So when creationists defend their beliefs they have little to fall back upon other than those beliefs. Their level of education in the relevant science is usually abysmal, as are the educations of those to whom they look for answers. Make up a "what if" story. That's as good as anything, because the details don't really matter--we know the TRVTHTM. Vapor canopy? Sure, here's how it happened... (see upthread for examples).
Again, I think it is a case of creationists believing "why bother studying science when its wrong."
But then they want this stuff taught in the schools? Now that's a real joke!

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Coyote
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Message 117 of 144 (507954)
05-09-2009 7:10 AM
Reply to: Message 116 by Peg
05-09-2009 6:51 AM


Re: fishing for excuses
Re: your past several posts.
Peg, science is not your forte. Give it up.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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