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Author Topic:   Fake polls, fake news
Faith 
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Message 243 of 710 (800343)
02-22-2017 12:50 PM


More on Sweden

  
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Message 245 of 710 (800345)
02-22-2017 1:20 PM
Reply to: Message 244 by PaulK
02-22-2017 12:53 PM


Re: One report on Sweden
... is there any reason we should trust a YouTube video over the official crime figures?
Honesty. An honest assessment of the video shows its truthfulness over the statistics.

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Message 251 of 710 (800352)
02-22-2017 1:41 PM
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02-22-2017 1:21 PM


Re: Crime in Sweden is huge.
Did you watch the videos you are judging as "fake news?"

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Message 252 of 710 (800353)
02-22-2017 1:43 PM
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02-22-2017 1:40 PM


Re: One report on Sweden
Well, there are lots of such videos, lots and lots of them. But in my opinion even one made by an honest observer should be enough to suggest to an honest viewer that perhaps the truth isn't being promoted by the usual sources.

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Message 254 of 710 (800355)
02-22-2017 1:48 PM
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02-22-2017 1:45 PM


Re: One report on Sweden
It's obvious. Take it or leave it.
This need to pretend that these things are not happening in Europe is astonishing.

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Faith 
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Message 260 of 710 (800362)
02-22-2017 2:11 PM


Another report on Sweden
Paul Joseph Watson did a really good report on Sweden at InfoWars this morning but it's not available at YouTube yet. I did find an older video by him though.

  
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Message 262 of 710 (800366)
02-22-2017 2:33 PM


Rape, theft, mayhem in Cologne, Germany
Here's one on the attack on Cologne in Germany. It shows that the first account in the press of the attack was fake news.

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Message 263 of 710 (800367)
02-22-2017 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 261 by Percy
02-22-2017 2:28 PM


Re: Fake News defined
I heard most of those stories or saw the headlines. The effect was the same: everything Trump does is wrong and evil. If I saw them they are quite mainstream enough. They are fake news designed to harm Trump. We're awash in the stuff. Your nitpicking is just a distraction. You wouldn't call the DeVos story fake news? That says only too much about your standards.

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Faith 
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Message 267 of 710 (800373)
02-22-2017 2:54 PM


Here's one (of many) on the problems in France
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

  
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Message 269 of 710 (800375)
02-22-2017 2:57 PM
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02-22-2017 2:46 PM


Re: Rape, theft, mayhem in Cologne, Germany
Watching any few minutes of any of the videos should be sufficient. But anyone having a strong opinion that nothing serious is going on in Europe as a result of the Muslim influx really ought to watch more than that.

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Faith 
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Message 273 of 710 (800394)
02-23-2017 12:15 AM


Just a couple more counter-fake news videos
I can watch a lot of these videos, but as usual just a few minutes is all I ask of anti-Trumpers. Here's the latest report on Sweden by Paul Watson at Infowars. The theme is fake news because videos like this are necessary to get the truth across, because otherwise all we get is fake news. If you're only going to watch a few minutes, start around 4:30 or 5::00.
And I might as well put up an older one by Watson on the plots against Trump:
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Message 275 of 710 (800396)
02-23-2017 1:12 AM
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02-23-2017 12:34 AM


Re: Just a couple more counter-fake news videos
I don't expect anyone to trust them who has his mind as totally made up as yours is. The hope of course is that there may be some others who have better judgment.

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Message 277 of 710 (800398)
02-23-2017 1:36 AM
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02-23-2017 1:21 AM


Re: Just a couple more counter-fake news videos
Yes but that's what I meant. The videos are good evidence.
Of course maybe we could get up a fund and send you to Sweden to see for yourself what's going on there?

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Message 279 of 710 (800402)
02-23-2017 2:10 AM
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02-23-2017 2:00 AM


Re: Just a couple more counter-fake news videos
Very bad judgment as I said.''

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Faith 
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Message 280 of 710 (800403)
02-23-2017 2:10 AM
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02-23-2017 2:00 AM


Re: Just a couple more counter-fake news videos
Very bad judgment as I said.
I don't think you know what propaganda is.
In any case, the problem here is that the truth is being suppressed, and the videos are just some of the attempts to expose it. It's hard to expose something that is being lied about on a huge scale. And if you don't take that possibility into account you'll never figure out what's going on, in Europe, in Sweden, or in the fake news about Trump. The evidence IS there, but you have to approach it without prejudgment.

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