Egyptology Sets Up A Straw Man

Just a shot in the dark but are you talking about the Ipuwer papyrus? It's not about a specific defeat per se but rather seems to depict a country in ruin. I first heard about it on a BBC program that claimed it is from the period around the collapse of the Old Kingdom and reflects the results of long term failure (20 to 30 years) of the annual Nile flood. There are others such as Velikovsky who claim it reflects the problems in Egypt after the events of the Exodus.

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Oops! Wrong Planet

Actually I made no comment on whether it refers to the end of the Old Kingdom or the Exodus, I merely said that both claims were made. I have since discovered there is at least one other interpretation. I would have to do some further investigation before coming to any conclusion - but as it isn't relevant to the topic here I feel no inclination to do so at the present time.Your worldview is making you read things that aren't in what we post

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Oops! Wrong Planet

I'll admit upfront I know next to nothing about this period of time (whenever it was ) in terms of biblical or non-biblical history, but it seems to me an obvious question needs to be asked. Maybe it has an obvious or well-known answer - I apologise in advance if that is the case.Egypt surely didn't exist in a vacuum? If it was 'destroyed' or even just suffered the Biblical plagues combined with the loss of a large number of slaves (at least according to some - I think from previous postings you subscribe to this view) and then the death of the Pharoah and the annihilation of his army it must have been very weakened.If so doesn't this create a big (and I mean huge) opportunity for neighbouring Empires and Kingdoms to grab some terrority or for subjugated areas and/or peoples to rise up and try for freedom?Now if this happened there are two possible outcomes in each case:

• The Egyptians win
• The other side win

In either case somebody is going to have victories to record - do we see a burst of victories recorded by the Egyptians or their defeats recorded by the victors following on from the period of the plagues and Exodus?I know it is possible that Egypt went through all these problems with no subsequent problems of the kind I've described, but through history it very often seems that turmoil or disaster in a country provides opportunity which others are willing to exploit.Edit: I see from the very next post jar asked this sort of thing eight months ago - well I never was the quickest on the block This message has been edited by MangyTiger, 01-11-2006 07:30 PM

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