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Author Topic:   The first 3 chapters of Genesis
RickJB
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Message 89 of 307 (349555)
09-16-2006 6:27 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by robinrohan
09-15-2006 3:12 PM


I don't remember Jar arguing against punishment. He argued that the idea of "original sin" is not made explcit in the text.
The section you present seems to back that up...
Jar's "just so" hypothesis works for me. Adam and Eve were punished and that's why the world is as it is.
However, I can see how the the "fall" concept would arise. One can argue that we were ALL punished because we live in the world that resulted from their disobediance. This idea, however, does not appear to have been made explicit in the text.
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RickJB
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Message 131 of 307 (349728)
09-17-2006 3:02 AM
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09-17-2006 1:13 AM


jar writes:
Christianity makes no sense without the concept of the Fall and the Passion.
Christianity makes no more sense WITH the concept of the Fall and the Passion....
God sends an avatar of himself to Earth as a "sacrifice". He then ressurects him(self). Where's the sacrifice?
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RickJB
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Message 132 of 307 (349730)
09-17-2006 3:10 AM
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09-17-2006 1:41 AM


robin writes:
I said real religion. Jar's religion is not real.
No less real than anyone else's...
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RickJB
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Message 149 of 307 (349812)
09-17-2006 4:56 PM
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09-17-2006 4:41 PM


Re: No Law
Iano writes:
For without something to get its teeth into it sin couldn't be lured into the open for something to be done about it.
Could you expand on this, Iano?
Are you saying that A+E HAD to sin in order for sin to be defined?
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