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Author Topic:   The first 3 chapters of Genesis
Heathen
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Message 260 of 307 (351035)
09-21-2006 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 238 by robinrohan
09-21-2006 9:46 AM


Re: Origins of the books of Genesis
robinrohan writes:
what are the facts of the story?
facts? ha!
that answer to that question should render this discussion pointless... there are no "facts" in this story

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Heathen
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From: Brizzle
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Message 265 of 307 (351042)
09-21-2006 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 259 by iano
09-21-2006 1:10 PM


iano writes:
One cannot evaluate a thing to be good/evil before one knows about good/evil. And that knowledge came after the fact.
Isn't that precisely the point? Adam or Eve could not evaluate eating the apple to be good or evil untill it was too late. => God = jerk.
They did not fully understand the choice they were making, they could not have without the knowledge of good and evil. The made the choice without the ability to fully understand the consequenses.
like leaving a child by a cliff's edge and saying "don't go over the edge or you will surey die"
the child has no comprehension of the consequenses of going over the edge. => God = Jerk
It's like saying "well you can stay here in the garden of eden where things are good or you can have what's in the 'mystery box'" what kind of a choice is that?
=> God = Jerk

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Heathen
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Message 284 of 307 (351067)
09-21-2006 2:07 PM
Reply to: Message 267 by iano
09-21-2006 1:32 PM


I was adressing what you said in message 259..
apparently agreeing with Jar's point

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Heathen
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Message 287 of 307 (351070)
09-21-2006 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 275 by ringo
09-21-2006 1:54 PM


Except what was in the box was some kind of "running man" arena, where the contestants are doomed to die (spiritually of course)
no way out... unless a saviour (arnie) of some sort comes along and offers a way out..
wayyyyt a minute!.....

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