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Author Topic:   Why do Christians make God out to be dumb?
ringo
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Message 225 of 259 (353141)
09-29-2006 1:55 PM
Reply to: Message 224 by robinrohan
09-29-2006 1:39 PM


robinrohan writes:
Why the sacrifice? The idea makes a little more sense if one thinks of it as a debt that has to be paid.
Who owes the debt? And to whom is it owed?
(And while we're at it, what is the "substance" of the debt - i.e. what is owed?)

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Message 227 of 259 (353152)
09-29-2006 2:30 PM
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09-29-2006 2:11 PM


robinrohan writes:
God's Nature is such that it's a contradiction for mankind to be let off without the debt being paid.
But that view of "God's Nature" by some Christians is what makes God look dumb.
If you owe me money, I can forgive the debt with a snap of the fingers. Why do some Christians make God seem less capable?
Thinking about it further, I think "poison" makes more sense than "debt."
The usual way of dealing with a poison is to pump it out of the system or to administer an antidote to neutralize it. Why can't God do that?
Why is a "sacrifice" necessary? How does a sacrifice relate to the poison analogy at all?

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Message 249 of 259 (353301)
09-30-2006 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 248 by Faith
09-30-2006 4:32 PM


Re: The believe at the time ...
Faith writes:
Jesus told parables, but the Bible isn't parables otherwise, which ought to be obvious.
It's pretty obvious that the talking-snake story isn't literal history.

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