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Omniscience, Omnipotence, the Fall & Logical Contradictions.

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iceage 
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Message 151 of 354 (361965)
11-05-2006 5:25 PM 		Reply to: Message 150 by Christian7
11-05-2006 5:18 PM

Re: the illusion of free will
ibiblenano writes:
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You don't seem to understand something. You don't chose X because God knows you will chose X. God knows you will chose X because you will chose X.
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If your god already knows just what choices we are going to make then why not just push the fast forward button and get it all over with?
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Why all the pomp and ceremony?
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iceage 
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Message 158 of 354 (362148)
11-06-2006 12:27 PM 		Reply to: Message 153 by Christian7
11-06-2006 6:14 AM

Re: the illusion of free will
If your god already knows just what choices we are going to make then why not just push the fast forward button and get it all over with?
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Why all the pomp and ceremony?
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Why do people ask how old their children are on their birthday? Don't they know already? I mean think about it. What's the point?
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Glancing recocheting non-sequiqtur.
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Point is: God wants us to have the experience of chosing him or chosing against him, and afterwords he wants us to have the experience of our consequences. It's as simple as that.
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Do you have biblical references substantiating this claim...
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iceage 
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11-06-2006 6:09 PM 		Reply to: Message 153 by Christian7
11-06-2006 6:14 AM

Re: the illusion of free will
Point is: God wants us to have the experience of chosing him or chosing against him, and afterwords he wants us to have the experience of our consequences. It's as simple as that.
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You speak here with an air of authority. So do you have Biblical references substantiating this claim?
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Otherwise I don't think it is cool to make claims what God “wants us” or does not want us to do.
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I would recommend you preface such comments with "I think", "I believe" or "maybe" - otherwise it smacks of arrogance and you will get a strong response. From reading the various exchanges to your claims I would suggest you spend a little more time thinking these claims thru.
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