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So Just How is ID's Supernatural-based Science Supposed to Work? (SUM. MESSAGES ONLY)

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Message 44 of 396 (438067)
12-02-2007 4:59 PM 		Reply to: Message 28 by purpledawn
12-01-2007 6:56 AM

Re: How Does ID Work?
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So far I don't see that ID works much differently than science when brainstorming possibilities.
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Sure it does.
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Everything they come up with is predicated upon the idea that a Creator must have done it, and then they work backwards from there, trying to find evidence to fit their preselected conclusion.
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What you've got to remember, Pd, is that IDists are just somewhat more sophisticated Creationists. Their basic mode of thinking about evidence is fundamentally unscientific.
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12-02-2007 5:01 PM 		Reply to: Message 32 by Beretta
12-02-2007 1:00 AM

Re: How Does ID Work?
What are the predictions of ID?
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What are the potential falsifications?
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How have they been tested?
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What have been the results?
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12-02-2007 9:52 PM 		Reply to: Message 51 by Cold Foreign Object
12-02-2007 6:27 PM

Re: How Does ID Work? Presupposed Fantasy?
What idiot designed the human skull to have a sharp ridge on the inside?
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12-03-2007 5:14 PM 		Reply to: Message 61 by Beretta
12-03-2007 9:51 AM

Re: How Does ID Work? Presupposed Fantasy?
What are the predictions of ID?
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What are the potential falsifications?
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How have they been tested?
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What have been the results?
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If you have no answers to those questions, why should ID be taught in science classes?
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12-08-2007 8:01 PM 		Reply to: Message 76 by Buzsaw
12-07-2007 9:33 PM

What are the predictions of ID?
What are the potential falsifications?
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How have they been tested?
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What have been the results?
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If you have no answers to those questions, why should ID be taught in science classes?
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Message 100 of 396 (439438)
12-08-2007 8:03 PM 		Reply to: Message 81 by Beretta
12-08-2007 9:19 AM

All of this is just distraction
What are the predictions of ID?
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What are the potential falsifications?
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How have they been tested?
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What have been the results?
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If you have no answers to those questions, why should ID be taught in science classes?
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Message 124 of 396 (439617)
12-09-2007 3:17 PM 		Reply to: Message 102 by Buzsaw
12-08-2007 8:50 PM

Re: How do you present the evidence
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What is your response to the specifics of my message 91 relative to your questions?
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I didn't see any specifics in message 91.
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All you said was that there was someone who made a video that made a lot of claims, and then complained that the scientific community isn't doing somersaults over it.
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The questions remain:
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What are the predictions of ID?
What are the potential falsifications?
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How have they been tested?
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What have been the results?
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If you have no answers to those questions, why should ID be taught in science classes?
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12-09-2007 3:20 PM 		Reply to: Message 115 by Beretta
12-09-2007 1:17 AM

Re: Bump for Beretta or any other ID-ist
What are the predictions of ID?
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What are the potential falsifications?
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How have they been tested?
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What have been the results?
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If you have no answers to those questions, why should ID be taught in science classes?
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