the new and improved obama thread

OC writes:For all your islamaphobia, you could have at least researched it. For one, it is considered not the Koran if not read in Arabic, but a perversion of it. Second, Muslims' place in Heaven is dictated by how many verses in Arabic they memorize. You may think that Arabic isn't relevant here, but you'd be quite wrong.

OC writes:Do you know anything about Islam?How can you attack Obama as being an Muslim when you don't even understand some of the most basic things about Islam?

bren writes:oh, so just because you cited this, you're not responsible for this claim? how convenient. take responsibility for your innuendo.

jar writes:That is an absolute falsehood.Keep on posting smear, innuendo and falsehoods.

Granny writes:I must have been dozing off when Wright specified that whites were to blame for Hiroshima and Nagasaki (I thought he used the word "we"; maybe I was dreaming), or where he actually accused whites of ruining the nation. Funny that.Besides, just because Obama has listens to Wright, it does not mean he agrees with him on every single issue, still less that he would follow any of Wright's advice. I doubt that every member of your congregation slavishly believes every word you say; I certainly hope not.Anyway, you were going to demonstrate that Wright was a "radical black racist" and that he is "antisemitic" and that he "espouses racist black power" and that he "has connections with racist Nation of Islam's leaders". You have ignored my request to show me the bit of your cited article that backs up any of these assertions. I assume that the reason for this is because you know full well that your cite demonstrates nothing of the sort.2. No presidential candidate likely donated tens of thousands to Jerry or Pat's ministry, were married and baptized by them or took their children regularly to hear them.You need to demonstrate that there is something wrong with the pastor before it follows that there is something wrong with supporting him. You have ignored my invitation to back up your slurs. The worst your article has on Wright is that he said "damn America". Oh horror! Obama sits and listens to someone exercising his right of free speech! How awful! This is pretty tame stuff compared to your accusations.3. During WWII the Biblical morality principles were more entrenched in America than after the hippy era. When 9/11 happened, Biblical morality was at an all time low up to that point. Pat and Jerry could cite Biblical scripture pertaining to warnings by the Biblical god to nations that departed from moral principles in scripture.Pat and Jerry could cite scripture that predicted any damn thing they liked, as they share(d) your bent for twisting the Bible into whatever suits the current agenda.One of the few genuinely controversial things that Wright says in the article is that America is partly to blame for 9/11, an argument that is far from unusual. You seem to be implying that America is entirely to blame, due to its sinful ways inviting divine hissy-fits. So, you and Pat and Jerry appear to outdo Wright in this arena, as Molbiogirl points out.4. Jerry and Pat's warnings were across the board racially. They were not incessantly, year in and year out fomenting racial hatred toward Jews or any other race as were Jeremiah Wright's.Again, I must have developed hysterical blindness when I read the anti-Semetic bits, as I didn't see any. Again, I invite you to point them out to me. Until then, this seems like more smear tactic bullshit.

Granny writes:We all know that Farrakhan is an asswipe. Farrakhan is anti-Semitic. That does not demonstrate that Wright is anti-Semitic. All you can do is say "Obama is bad, because he knows a guy who knows a guy who's anti-Semitic.". Pretty weak Buz.

Mobiogirl writes:You claimed that Rev. Wright is "racist". Nowhere in that clip does Rev. Wright make anything even remotely resembling a racist statement.

ramoss writes:All I have to say is that I find it interesting that many of the same people who are bitching about Obama's pastor being racist (guilt by association), were also the people who were bitching about Obama being Islamic. I guess the Islamic label didn't stick, so they are mudslinging something else.

Rahvin writes:Except that it's true. Who were the Founding Fathers? Wealthy white men. Who constitutes the vast majority of Congress, the Supreme Court, and botht he President and Vice President? Wealtyh white men. Such has been the case since the founding. Why do you think it's such a big deal that we may finally elect a female or black President?