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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
I mean assuming it had enough energy to extend continuously All photons 'extend continuously', irrespective of their energy. That's what they do - until they are absorped by something, that is. The photon will follow the straighest line through space and will whip around the black hole and arrive back at its starting point and will endlessly orbit. If you start constructing a perfectly straight bar along this direction, you will end up making a loop
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
Of course, factoring in the time dimension. Not factoring anything in - this is what will happen.
What about my sudden extension bar model How is it extending? So that it looks and measures perfectly straight? Then it will meet itself after a length of 6.pi.M.G/c2
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
Rrhain, I'm not going on your segway. You're simply hijacking this thread with repeated same-oles No, Buz. Rrhain's question is at the very heart of all of this, and the fact that you cannot appreciate this is what reveals just how mindbogglingly out of your own depth you have become.
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
and almost on-topic, so sod it, here's my reply to ICANT wrt his recent rejected proposed new topic:
My question is, If it is a pile of crap when I say it? Yes
Is it also a pile of crap when Neil Turok says it? No That was easy. Next?
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
Nicely put... shame it will be wasted on Buz.
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
All the kings horses and all the kings men have yet to empirically establish that forces and energy can be a property of space, allowing for it's curvature and expansion. This was done long long ago. The trouble is, Buz, you don't even have any clue as to the meaning of the words you areusing. You do not understand force, energy, never mind space. Most people think that their understanding that applies in their garage applies to the Universe at large. They are simply uninformed of the nature of reality, and they will probably remain that way for their entire lives. You *INSIST* that your understanding that applies in your garage should apply to the Universe at large. There's a word for people who think like that. It is 'idiot'.
We know that energy, forces and matter occupy space and that space is area in which these exist. What does "occupy" mean, Buz? How does something occupy space? What does that mean? Is there no space where that thing is? Does space fill in behind that thing, as that thing moves around?
What BBT science does is to assign certain forces, energy which exist in space to be properties of space. Buz, why are you lying? You have been told that BBT is based upon General Relativity, and it is General Relativity that assigns these properties space - General Relativity, that is one of the two most successfully tested theories ever devised. So why do you keep bringing up BBT and makign these claims? BBT has nothing to do with any of this.
Furthermore, as I have contended for a long time, the BBT of expanding space had not place where it could have existed in, no time for it to have happened and no place for it to expand into. What has the BBT to do with any of this? When I was five, I informed my best friend that nothing could travel faster than light. He replied that some dragsters could. This is the level of your understanding, Buz.
we've all scored some punches here. Yes, Buz, you have scored punches - in your own stupid face. Why am I reminded of the Black Knight?
I'm not by any means claiming a decisive victory oh, you mean you're not going to go to Nobel and claim the last 100 years' worth of Physics prizes then? Not just yet... Fucking hell, where is that ROTFLMAO emoticon when you need it?
BTW, Buzsaw leaves the ring with logic and common sense intact Yes, the logic and common sense that works perfectly well in your garage. But surely only the most pig-ignorant fuck-wit would try to claim that his garage-based understanding would enable him to overturn 100 years of quantum, relativistic, and cosmological physics? Don't you think, Buz?
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
As I thought I had made clear, Buz - garage level common sense does not apply. If you insist that it does, you're an idiot. Simple as.
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
You evaded my question, Son Goku. So we're back to square one. Son Goku A professional physicist is giving you his time and effort to help you understand something, and you simply say he is EVADING your question??? Oh, I am so glad this is in free-for-all. Buz, go fuck yourself, you sad retarded old man.
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
but that doesn't mean he should get a pass on evading my question as I've shown to be the case, does it, Cavediver? Just because YOU cannot understand his answer, does not mean that he has evaded your question. He has answered it perfectly well. As I answered it perfectly well long long ago. You do not understand the responses. That is fine. I do not expect you to. This is where you should say, I'm sorry, I don't understand. But no, you say that we are evading your question. If you were a student back at Cambridge, I would throw you out the class. If you were a student at my school, I would chuck you in detention for your disrespect. But I'm here, so I merely insult you. Because that is all you deserve. You certainly do not deserve any more of my time. Son Goku and I have devoted vast segments of our lives to this subject. We do not evade, we do not bullshit, we do not make stuff up. We present what we know and we try to get the explanations across. We do not expect arrogant pricks to inform us that we are evading questions!!! You want to be treated like a gentleman??? Then fucking act like one.
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
You can't expect too much. Perhaps not - I just expect a level of respect and a lack of accusations of dishonesty and evasion. However, it is revealing seeing my own rage in my responses - I have no doubt now where my true devotion lies. Why did I ever leave
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3673 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
Buzsaw writes: What properties of space and time allow for them to be cuved/warped by dense mass gravity? Son Goku writes: Their [space and time's] coupling to the stress energy of matter. Buzsaw writes: But his answer was not that hard for anyone to understand who has been following this discussion. Ok, what does it mean then?
It was clearly an evasion as I have effectively substantiated. It is not clearly anything, and you have substantiated nothing. Please, show me your undersatdning of SG's answer and how it is an evasion. Or are you just lying, yet again? Edited by cavediver, : No reason given.
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