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Author Topic:   Expectations For The New Obama Democrat Government
Chiroptera
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Message 9 of 341 (487864)
11-06-2008 8:03 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Huntard
11-06-2008 7:58 AM


You do realizs that even with this government, you will STILL be considered on the right of the political spectrum in almost every other nation, don't you?
Obama isn't even far left compared to mainstream American opinion, either. He's quite centrist.
"Far left" is pretty much loony-right speak for, "he disagrees with me on certain policy positions." Also, what can you expect from a movement that continues to think Obama is a secret Muslim who isn't even a natural born citizen? Or who can call Obama a Marxist and a Muslim in the same breath without even realizing the inherent contradiction?

Speaking personally, I find few things more awesome than contemplating this vast and majestic process of evolution, the ebb and flow of successive biotas through geological time. Creationists and others who cannot for ideological or religious reasons accept the fact of evolution miss out a great deal, and are left with a claustrophobic little universe in which nothing happens and nothing changes.
-- M. Alan Kazlev

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Chiroptera
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Message 22 of 341 (487925)
11-06-2008 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by petrophysics1
11-06-2008 2:04 PM


Re: Repeating history
You know, pp1, responding to Buz's OP as if he were making valid observations about Obama isn't exactly doing your credibility any good.
Not that your political opinions had much credibility to begin with, but you don't have to reinforce the notions that you have no more clue about what is going on in the world than Buz does.

Speaking personally, I find few things more awesome than contemplating this vast and majestic process of evolution, the ebb and flow of successive biotas through geological time. Creationists and others who cannot for ideological or religious reasons accept the fact of evolution miss out a great deal, and are left with a claustrophobic little universe in which nothing happens and nothing changes.
-- M. Alan Kazlev

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Chiroptera
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Message 35 of 341 (487974)
11-07-2008 7:07 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Buzsaw
11-06-2008 8:23 AM


Re: Far Leftism
Case in point that you're wrong: The gay marriage defeat in Ca where 70% of blacks and a majority of latinoes helped uphold the majority traditional marriage values, contrary to Obama, who btw, is rated 4th most liberal member of Congress.
Except that Obama doesn't support gay marriage. So even your single counter-example (which wouldn't by itself refute my point anyway) is factually incorrect.

Speaking personally, I find few things more awesome than contemplating this vast and majestic process of evolution, the ebb and flow of successive biotas through geological time. Creationists and others who cannot for ideological or religious reasons accept the fact of evolution miss out a great deal, and are left with a claustrophobic little universe in which nothing happens and nothing changes.
-- M. Alan Kazlev

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Chiroptera
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Message 38 of 341 (488002)
11-07-2008 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Buzsaw
11-07-2008 9:28 AM


Re: Far Leftism
I understand he has indicated that he would not impose a gay marriage ban....
Not imposing a ban is not the same as supporting, yes? Maybe he feels that as President he doesn't (and shouldn't) have the right to interfere with the decisions of the states. Unlike conservatives who are all in favor of "states rights" as long as the states want to implement their policies, but then start squawking about the need for federal oversight once the states decide to go against conservative policies.
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I don't know why he is concerned about the Constitution, given some recent comments regarding it's alleged problems which I also heard.
I also think the Constitution has some serious problems. I also acknowledge that it is the one that we actual have. What is your point?

Speaking personally, I find few things more awesome than contemplating this vast and majestic process of evolution, the ebb and flow of successive biotas through geological time. Creationists and others who cannot for ideological or religious reasons accept the fact of evolution miss out a great deal, and are left with a claustrophobic little universe in which nothing happens and nothing changes.
-- M. Alan Kazlev

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Chiroptera
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Message 47 of 341 (488113)
11-07-2008 7:03 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Huntard
11-06-2008 1:54 AM


Will you apologize when you turn out to be wrong Buz? Somehow I doubt it.
What will happen is that the Lunatic Right will claim that the bravery and dedication of "Real Americans" kept that Muslim Marxist in line.

Speaking personally, I find few things more awesome than contemplating this vast and majestic process of evolution, the ebb and flow of successive biotas through geological time. Creationists and others who cannot for ideological or religious reasons accept the fact of evolution miss out a great deal, and are left with a claustrophobic little universe in which nothing happens and nothing changes.
-- M. Alan Kazlev

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Chiroptera
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Message 71 of 341 (488172)
11-08-2008 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by Vacate
11-08-2008 12:39 PM


Re: Enemies rejoice
I was going to answer that question in the same way, namely, that all our allies are rejoicing as well.
But then I remembered that in the Wingnut mind, every country is an enemy or potential enemy, whether its those jealous northern Canadians, those jealous Marxist Europeans, those jealous Islamic Arabs, or those jealous inscrutable Asians. We're surrounded by enemies, friends-of-the-moment, and ignorant, effete surrender monkeys.

Speaking personally, I find few things more awesome than contemplating this vast and majestic process of evolution, the ebb and flow of successive biotas through geological time. Creationists and others who cannot for ideological or religious reasons accept the fact of evolution miss out a great deal, and are left with a claustrophobic little universe in which nothing happens and nothing changes.
-- M. Alan Kazlev

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Chiroptera
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Message 92 of 341 (488281)
11-09-2008 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Buzsaw
11-08-2008 7:37 PM


Re: Important Question To Answer Here
You do realize that you sound just like the classical conspiracy theorist, right? I mean, you're sounding like like lost-apathy on his World Trade Center Conspiracy Thread. You've jumped to a conclusion based more on your own insistence on how you know the world works with some dodgy "facts" to justify it, and no amount of contrary evidence is going to change mind.
What's more, I bet in the future, there are going to be a series that trivial incidents that are going to "confirm" your beliefs.

Speaking personally, I find few things more awesome than contemplating this vast and majestic process of evolution, the ebb and flow of successive biotas through geological time. Creationists and others who cannot for ideological or religious reasons accept the fact of evolution miss out a great deal, and are left with a claustrophobic little universe in which nothing happens and nothing changes.
-- M. Alan Kazlev

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Chiroptera
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Message 292 of 341 (500268)
02-24-2009 10:24 AM
Reply to: Message 284 by Buzsaw
02-23-2009 6:40 PM


Re: Topic Update
I've placed a dash on the ones which I see as on track as per the policies of the president and his cabinet.
-5. So called (miss called) Fairness Doctrine essentially eliminating right wing talk shows in the media, highly expanding what is regarded as hate speech.
I'm curious where you get this one since Obama himself has state that he is opposed to it, and there is very little support for it even among Democrats in Congress.

An atheist doesn't have to be someone who thinks he has a proof that there can't be a god. He only has to be someone who believes that the evidence on the God question is at a similar level to the evidence on the werewolf question. -- John McCarthy

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