A Modern Day Miracle Man - Establishes the Supernatural Realm

Why would TB Joshua have people pray if he already knows that the prayer will be ineffective?

Maybe the prayer was effective and the incident was suppose to take place on that Friday, but was thwarted because of the praying? We will never know.

If the prophecy serves as a warning and the family heeds the warning and never boards the plane, then the prophecy will never be fulfilled? That would then make it not a prophecy at all, right?

I've done some digging on this TB Joshua, watched many of the videos on YouTube,[

and have found nothing convincing at all.

Very little information is available about him that is not controlled, approved or released from his own organization.

He is nothing but a conman and you have fallen for it hook line and sinker.

The first problem here is that TB Joshua counts personal and military flights as well as commercial flights. You should use more complete figures.

The second is that air travel has dramatically increased over the last fifty years. An average over that period of time cannot be trusted to give us a figure that applies today.

And excluding military crashes, and crashes of private planes...

Had anyone that heard his prophecy been scheduled to be on any of those flights, and did they get bumped for some reason? Were any of the people who were in the crashes aware of the prophecy? If not, then it seems like all he did was make a vague prediction that an air crash would occur during the end of the month.

Do you know how many air crashes occur during a month?

Do you know how many occur during the half of the month of January?

If I say, "Be careful if you're flying during the beginning of the month of October, between 1, 5, 16, any of the days from 1 to 16, for if you shall be on a flight during that time and it crashes, if you be righteous, you shall not be hurt."

Do the mathematics. 21199/5286 is just over 4. One crash every 4 days... Hardly a rare event.

5286 out of 21199 is a little over 1 in 4. That is no joke. And let us not forget that you were claiming that there would often be months between crashes !

And the prophecy wasn't as precise as you claim either. Joshua never said that there would be a crash on a number of specific days.

Cedre, I think the denial is on your end.

ABNORMAL FLOODSDeadly floods ripped through parts of Japan and Turkey on Tuesday 21st July 2009, leaving a vicious trail of devastation and destruction in their wake. Days earlier in a prophetic declaration, Nigerian Prophet, TB Joshua had openly warned the public of such calamityOn Sunday 12th July 2009, TB Joshua, Pastor of The Synagogue Church Of All Nations in Lagos, Nigeria, issued a warning concerning ‘abnormal floods’ that would come at an unexpected time and wreak havoc. Water will come into the town and into the city and destroy a lot of things, said the Prophet. I’m seeing a water coming in a mighty way. People begin to run and the whole area was vacated and people disappeared. This is floodThis will happen at a time they are not expecting. People will be sleeping. He further re-iterated the warning and expanded on its details the following Sunday, 19th July. There will be rain that will cause damage, said the Nigerian prophet, and that will bring water into the city, the community. He went on to specify the locations of the anomalous weather, saying, It will not just be in one place, but one from an Asian country, a city in an Asian country The other one will be at the extreme end of the border. He expressly spoke to holiday-makers, stating that the border-disaster would come in a community where tourists enjoy themselves. Two days later on Tuesday 21st July, news broke to the international community that torrential rains had caused abnormal and fatal flooding in two separate locations, the city of Hofu in Japan and the surrounding areas, and the city of Giresun, (The other one will be extreme end of the border.
Giresun, the site of the second flood, is a province of turkey on the black sea coast. it was founded on a peninsula — the extreme end of the border exactly as Prophet T.B. Joshua had prophesied.)a popular tourist destination on the border or Turkey. Both cities were severely flooded, causing widespread alarm and extensive material damage to properties. In Hofu, the heavy downpour triggered land and mudslides, leaving 12 people dead and dozens still missing. The Meteorological Agency said the peak of the rain has passed in southern Japan, where more than 25 centimeters of rainfall was reported in 24 hours on Tuesday and has continued throughout the week with a warning of more landslides. Hundreds of people have been evacuated from their homes and fresh water supplies have been cut off to nearly 30,000 homes. In the city of Giresun situated on the border of Turkey, Mayor Kerim Aksu said that due to overflow in Giresun, a thousand vehicles and around two or three thousand homes flooded by water. Aksu said Thousands of vehicle and around two or three thousands of home flooded by water. We cannot assess the damage. The city is covered completely with water. Hospitals, schools and public buildings were seriously damaged. Flood caused a loss of nearly 20 million TL, experts said.The prophetic revelation comes in lieu of Prophet Joshua’s accurate predictions regarding the passing of Michael Jackson and the terrorist bombings in Jakarta, Indonesia. Joshua prophesies weekly during his Sunday Services, which are broadcast live on Emmanuel TV, a religious station particularly popular in Africa. It is remarkable that the Nigerian prophet’s ability to prophesy accurately regarding world issues is consistent, as each month brings fresh confirmation of his words. This leaves less room for doubt regarding the authenticity of such prophetic utterances.http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/3756767-abnormal-floods

That would be more impressive if it were "only 52 out of a whooping 21199 days" or "only 5286 out of a whooping 2,119,977 days." You're failing to impress with this kind of rhetoric, Cedre.

It's not two million days, doofus.

That makes it about 25%

I would bet a lot of money on 25% odds. One in four is not rare. There is no definition of the word rare that 25% would qualify as. 25% is common.

YOu are letting your faith destroy all credibility and common sense you may have once had.

You do realize don't you that Asia is the largest continent in the world and July is the height of monsoon season, don't you.
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From about mid June, for about a month, it is the monsoon season where it often rains.Source
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The climate is typical of this stretch of the Black Sea coast i.e. very wet.Source
And since when would you refer to a coastal place as being on the border. This is ludicrous. Do we say, New York or Los Angeles are on the border?Oh yeah, you can define words anyway you wantBorder : the line that separates one country, state, province, etc., from another; frontier line: You cannot cross the border without a visa.You could make an ambiguous "prophecy" like this almost any week of the year and there would be places that fit this. Also, he made the prophecy 9 days before. Do you know anything about meteorology? It is quite common to have forecasts 12-15 days out. It is easy to anticipate heavy rainfall from a major system even further out than that.
Nothing to see here folks, move along, move along.

Lets look at the odds of a traveler being in a plane crash, further revealing how rare it is
Winning the lottery jackpot? (1 in 14 million)
being struck by lightning? (1 in 20 million)Your odds of these two things are actually BETTER than being in an airplane crash (1 in 25 million)
Source(s):
National Safety Council

Yes, for the individual. For A planecrash to happen, those odds aren't nearly as low. And are, as you yourself showed, quite high.

furthermore like I said in the previous post this accidents are not predetermined to happen once every four days, they can in fact happen more than once or not at all.
All of which is completely irrelevant. Look, I've got a maths degree. Basic probability theory is NOT a problem for me.

That did not happen in 2007 or 2008 as I've already told you. It seems that you are the one ignoring previous posts - AND not bothering to actually check the figures. It hasn't happened so far in 2009 either.

TB Joshua never actually said that a crash WOULD happen on any specific day.

Those who are flying, please take Psalm 91. If you are going to fly: 17, 27, 28,"And he says in between 17, 27, 28. Write it down the Psalm 91 and sort of meditate on it."...It’s either you miss your flight; it’s either something happens 17, 27, 28."

And as we have seen if it didn't happen in January, the prophecy could be extended to other months.