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subbie Member (Idle past 1283 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
There's that christian compassion for the plight of those worse off than ourselves that we're all used to.
Of course, what should we expect from someone who worships such a hatemonger as, well any of the abrahamic gods, really? Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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Buz writes: DC85 writes: atheistic and secular is an oxymoron. Most atheists support a secular position however. A secular System protects everyone's freedom No it doesn't. It denys religious people the freedom to exercise religion relative to whatever extent the elected reps decide upon. Where in the fuck, you blithering moron, did you ever get the daft notion that elected officials have any right to make any decisions about our freedom to exercise religion, you brain dead, godstapo mutherfucker? (Pardon my french) Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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Buz writes: I'm well aware of that, Coyote. That's why I've alluded to the people's elected reps. You're aware of fuckall, you drooling excuse for a sentient being. A Constitutional republic means that all people, even those with nothing more than a functioning brainstem, such as yourself, have rights that the majority cannot take away, no matter how many of them you pile up in one place. It utterly amazes me that you were able to amass such a collection of wrong ideas in just 70 years. You must have been taking graduate level stupid courses since you were 3. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1283 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
I expect at any moment, for reasons that should be clear to anyone reading this thread, to spend some time in the corner. In the event that a thread opens up for POTM nominations before my time has run, would someone please nominate Dr. Adequate's concise but thorough refutation on my behalf?
Thank you. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1283 days) Posts: 3509 Joined:
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It's not "What Use To Be," you illiterate baboon! It's "What Used To Be."
If you're going to insist on saying imbecilic things, would you at least do me the courtesy of learning to speak the fucking language better than a 4 year old? Srsly! {AbE} While I'm at it.... It's whose, not who's and loser, not looser in message 15. And message 51! "purpose of these were" should be "purpose of these was" in message 31. It's denies, not denys in message 48. And all of that just in this thread! And stop saying "relative to." They're weasel words. For the love of Strunk and White, take a remedial class in grammar. Actually, you'll probably need to take two, one to unlearn all of your cretinous errors and the second to learn the right way to speak. Edited by subbie, : as noted. Edited by subbie, : No reason given. Edited by subbie, : No reason given. Edited by subbie, : No reason given. Edited by subbie, : No reason given. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1283 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Buz writes: Huntard, the atheist members on this board are all intelligent folks. I would assume that being such, there must be some unique values relative to atheism which cause them to be atheist. ... I've cited the only reason I can think of. The "reason" you cited was our desire to not have to be answerable to a higher power. Of course, you've failed to truly consider the implications of your beliefs. I agree with you that the atheists here are intelligent folk. I'm sure you would agree that intelligent folk who have a healthy self-interest want to base their decisions on reality, rather than someone else's fantasy. This being the case, how in the world can you conclude that not wanting to be answerable to a higher power would be a value held by atheists, unless they in fact actually believe that there is no higher power?
Buz writes: Human cultures throughout the history of mankind have had a religious bent. You cite this apparently as evidence for the existence of a higher power. Atheists instead look at the wide variety of different and contradictory beliefs about religion and see that as evidence of a lack of a higher power. If all your neighbors said there was a giant turtle in your backyard, but they all gave different descriptions of it, would you assume that there was a turtle, or that they were all hallucinating? Truly, Dr A summed up the basis for atheism quite succinctly:
Dr A writes: To speak for myself, the unique quality that atheism has that sets it above all other opinions on religion, and the sole reason that I value it, is that it appears to be true. What other reasons should there be for forming an opinion on a question of fact? That is the only thing that unites all atheists. Would I prefer a world where evil is punished and goodness is rewarded? Since I consider myself a good person, of course I would. I'd love to believe that there's some pie in the sky to make all the nasty in the world worth it in the end to those who don't deserve what happens to them. I suspect most good people feel that way. However, my beliefs must correspond to what I see in the real world, and there's no significant evidence to support such a belief. And I refuse to believe in something for which there isn't sufficient evidence just because I wish it were so. Now, if you want to call that a value, that's okay with me. I'm not particularly interested in arguing semantics. But other than the preceding paragraph, I sincerely doubt that there's anything that all atheists have in common. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1283 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
To make your elephant analogy analogous, you'd need them to say contradictory things about the elephant, often even contradicting themselves. One might say the turtle is red all over, has five legs and gives birth to penguins. The next might say the turtle has two legs is brown on top, red on the bottom with a hard, smooth shell, has seven legs and gives birth to chain link fences. The third might say the turtle an invisible chartreuse hippoplatysaurus covered in fur with one leg that tells him to love all his neighbors and kill the ones who snore in their sleep in the name of kindness and sprouts its offspring from the side of its head.
It's not just that they disagree, it's that they're mutually inconsistent. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1283 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
Buz writes: I've cited secularistic atheistic minded regimes of the Communist block nations which forbad Bibles into their nations who tortured and who slaughtered scores of millions last century as examples of the fruits of atheism when it becomes prevalent in a culture. Perhaps some of this may be due to the fact they those despots didn't think they would be accountable to a higher power for their bloody ruthlessness. That's been debunked so many times it's pointless to refute it. Instead, consider this: Since none of the intelligent atheists here subscribe to any of those things, perhaps those aren't atheist values, in the same way that the things that the RCC does that you disagree with aren't christian values. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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subbie Member (Idle past 1283 days) Posts: 3509 Joined: |
From Google News:
quote: Then proceeded to violate several of the rights guaranteed to us as citizens of a constitutional republic. Presumably, if attacked for this, they would argue, "But this is a democracy, and that's what the majority wants!" Actually, I'd be willing to bet that they struck "democratic" because they didn't want to do anything to give Democrats any press. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus. -- Thomas Jefferson For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack Obama We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
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